Was it Cowardice by Police in the Texas school shooting?

LurchAddams said:
Dude I'll be honest with you I'm thinking of leaving this site don't ever tell me to be ashamed of the way I feel again.
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Dont leave and if I hurt your feelings I’m sorry but I’m tired of people crying racism when simple incompetency is a whole lot more likely. The R word is used way too much as a tool against the other side. We have to remember the kids in this situation and come up with solutions that don’t infringe on others rights.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Why on Earth did he do that, was there some reason?
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He's a paid monkey for the right wing and gun manufacturers. This asshole has been relentless in trying to return Texas to the Wild West days. Another glazed eyed fuck who lies like butter wouldn't melt in his mouth. If it's not his kids or the kids of his friends and relatives, it's all crocodile tears and platitudes. I only hope he contracts brain cancer.
 
Taichiliberal said:
He's a paid monkey for the right wing and gun manufacturers. This asshole has been relentless in trying to return Texas to the Wild West days. Another glazed eyed fuck who lies like butter wouldn't melt in his mouth. If it's not his kids or the kids of his friends and relatives, it's all crocodile tears and platitudes. I only hope he contracts brain cancer.
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Your rage is totally justified. I can't hope for cancer, but I *can* hope that the good people of TX will elect the other guy and toss this POS out on his ear.
 
signalmankenneth said:
'Cowards': Uvalde Cops Face America's Wrath Over Bungled Shooting Response

Sure as hell looks like it?!!

[FONT=&]Police are facing heavy criticism and being labeled "cowards" for their response to the mass shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, this week.
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[FONT=&]A total of 19 children, two adults and the alleged shooter Salvador Ramos were killed amid the shooting on Tuesday. Outrage has erupted online and on cable news after it was revealed that local police went inside the building minutes after the gunman entered unchallenged but quickly retreated and took cover. Ramos was killed by border patrol agents more than an hour later.
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[FONT=&]Texas Department of Public Safety (TDPS) Lieutenant Chris Olivarez told CNN that police did not engage with Ramos further due to concerns that they would have taken fire and officers "could have been shot." The word "cowards" trended on Twitter in reference to the police after news of the delay emerged.
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[FONT=&]"The Uvalde police were a bunch of gutless cowards who shamed their badges," British TV personality Piers Morgan [/FONT]
https://twitter.com/x/status/1530240448706629638
[FONT=&] on Friday. "Heads should roll, and some of them should be charged with criminal negligence. They let those kids die."
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https://www.newsweek.com/cowards-uv...-wrath-over-bungled-shooting-response-1711103

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I'm not usually a defender of police, but I think in this case it's not that simple. There were two possibilities, from the perspective of the police outside the classroom, where waiting would have made sense:

(1) He had already killed everyone in the classroom, in which case, keeping him contained until they were sure they could take him down was the best chance to prevent more deaths..

(2) He hadn't done so, since he was holding some of the kids hostage in the hopes of negotiating his exit, and a half-baked incursion into the classroom could have caused him to kill them.

One you have a nutjob loose in a school with an assault weapon, there are no good choices available.... just an attempt to find the least bad choice. I think there's a lot of displaced anger here. People are pissed off about our inability, as a nation, to address something that keeps happening here with alarming frequency (even as it almost never happens elsewhere), and so they're looking for easy scapegoats. The left and right each have a reason to focus anger on the police -- the left because of a broader hostility towards the police, and the right because if this can be framed as a tragedy caused by having insufficiently aggressive police, that can divert energy from the gun control cause.
 
signalmankenneth said:
'Cowards': Uvalde Cops Face America's Wrath Over Bungled Shooting Response

Sure as hell looks like it?!!

[FONT=&]Police are facing heavy criticism and being labeled "cowards" for their response to the mass shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, this week.
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[FONT=&]A total of 19 children, two adults and the alleged shooter Salvador Ramos were killed amid the shooting on Tuesday. Outrage has erupted online and on cable news after it was revealed that local police went inside the building minutes after the gunman entered unchallenged but quickly retreated and took cover. Ramos was killed by border patrol agents more than an hour later.
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[FONT=&]Texas Department of Public Safety (TDPS) Lieutenant Chris Olivarez told CNN that police did not engage with Ramos further due to concerns that they would have taken fire and officers "could have been shot." The word "cowards" trended on Twitter in reference to the police after news of the delay emerged.
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[FONT=&]"The Uvalde police were a bunch of gutless cowards who shamed their badges," British TV personality Piers Morgan [/FONT]
https://twitter.com/x/status/1530240448706629638
[FONT=&] on Friday. "Heads should roll, and some of them should be charged with criminal negligence. They let those kids die."
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https://www.newsweek.com/cowards-uv...-wrath-over-bungled-shooting-response-1711103

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Don't hate the "cowards", Cunny, hate the guns. They're the greatest threat to modern liberalism, remember?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Thanks, from our man on the scene in Uvalde. :rolleyes:

Blaming the cops may be justified, but the real blame lies on our legislators who think it's perfectly fine for anyone to buy a weapon of mass destruction, no questions asked, and over a thousand rounds of ammunition.
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they believe it because it is in the constitution, duh
 
Mina said:
I'm not usually a defender of police, but I think in this case it's not that simple. There were two possibilities, from the perspective of the police outside the classroom, where waiting would have made sense:

(1) He had already killed everyone in the classroom, in which case, keeping him contained until they were sure they could take him down was the best chance to prevent more deaths..

(2) He hadn't done so, since he was holding some of the kids hostage in the hopes of negotiating his exit, and a half-baked incursion into the classroom could have caused him to kill them.

One you have a nutjob loose in a school with an assault weapon, there are no good choices available.... just an attempt to find the least bad choice. I think there's a lot of displaced anger here. People are pissed off about our inability, as a nation, to address something that keeps happening here with alarming frequency (even as it almost never happens elsewhere), and so they're looking for easy scapegoats. The left and right each have a reason to focus anger on the police -- the left because of a broader hostility towards the police, and the right because if this can be framed as a tragedy caused by having insufficiently aggressive police, that can divert energy from the gun control cause.
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no.

he killed and wounded slowly over time. you're already lying, spin room.
 
AssHatZombie said:
no.

he killed and wounded slowly over time. you're already lying, spin room.
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I'm not lying. I tool no position on whether he killed and wounded quickly or slowly. I'm just saying that from the perspective of the police, who couldn't be sure what was going on in the classroom, there were multiple scenarios where raiding the classroom could have been the wrong move.
 
Mina said:
I'm not lying. I tool no position on whether he killed and wounded quickly or slowly. I'm just saying that from the perspective of the police, who couldn't be sure what was going on in the classroom, there were multiple scenarios where raiding the classroom could have been the wrong move.
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no. wrong.
 
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