You thought Putin and his invincible army would roll over Ukraine in three days, so your judgement is neither good nor impartial.
Ukraine needs to face reality to end conflict, talk to Putin: Zelenskyy
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You thought Putin and his invincible army would roll over Ukraine in three days, so your judgement is neither good nor impartial.
LIAR
But you are ignoring “cypress’s” point, how can anyone believe anything Putin says? Putin settles on an agreement favorable to him, the Ukraine demobilizes, and month later Putin again pushes on for more territory
Can the Ukraine win, no, but their best hope is to stall and frustrate Putin long enough so that he or the Russian people have had enough, it is costing them
I haven't heard any of that lately. Makes me wonder if Xi told him to back off with that kind of talk.
China is certainly in charge. This has to be humiliating for Russia but there it is.
You actually think Putin takes orders from Xi?
They would not be framed as orders but China gets what they demand, Russia has lost the ability to say no to China.
America is the reason this has happened, we have completely lost Russia, and any hope of getting them back on our side.
You may be willing to surrender and submit to an invader, I don't think Ukranians will.
There is nothing Putin can promise that will be trusted. If Zalensky gives him Donbass and the southern coast, there is no way to trust Putin will stop there. He could be back in 12 months with a reinforced Russian army for another assault on Kyiv.
It will take Russia many years to rebuild, and there was never an assault on Kiev, you are completely delusional.
Wait a minute, are you telling us now Russia is a puppet of China? That what is decided in the Kremlin comes via Tiananmen Square?
No, the Chinese treat their friends better than puppets, that is the wrong word. Russia is treated with honor and their opinions are taken in and thoughtfully considered, but once the Chinese decide that is it, Russia falls in line, having no other options.
In spite of the Pro Ukrainian propaganda the outcome has never been in doubt. The longer it takes the Ukrainians to get with reality the more Ukraine gets rubbleized, and the harder it gets to put Ukraine back together even if America makes all the dollars that are needed (thus bringing America closer to collapse through financial irresponsibility).
moon
Satire for Sanity
I do- that's why I see your type as a fucking menace.
Doubtful, Putin doesn’t play second banana to anyone
Learn or dont...it is all the same to me.
yesterday or the day before it was "Russia threatens the Baltics and Poland" when talking to Latvia parliament
2 party talks wont do it.. too much posturing, too much walking away from talks
Erdogan is a perfect mediator and tried before but no one was ready for talks.
Noe that Ukraine is getting kicked around -all of a sudden he wants to talk to Putin
The question is does Putin want to talk to him? right now- no.
Putin has everything to gain -he already lost the attempt to take Kyiv, so he's going to
maximize gains in the south and east.
The exception would be to relax sanctions if he took part in talks
But the USA wants this war to go on. we want Putin out. It's always been about regime change
to the creeps in Congress and the NSC freaks. so we wont relax sanctions...and the meatgrinder continues
floridafan
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Since when does a country who is losing a war get to dictate the terms to end the war. Russia is losing badly and they will not get anything from Ukraine. The Russian economy is in terrible shape, their people are beginning to demand an end, No the Russians are entitled to nothing.