Mother: I know he had his reasons for doing what he did

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Mother of Texas school shooter tearfully begs people not to judge her son and says she 'wants the innocent children who died to forgive her': 'I know he had his reasons for doing what he did'


The mother of the teenager who slaughtered 19 children and two teachers at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, said he 'had his reasons.'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Mother-shooter-asks-people-not-judge-son.html

he had his reasons



What a fucked up POS
 
volsrock said:
Mother of Texas school shooter tearfully begs people not to judge her son and says she 'wants the innocent children who died to forgive her': 'I know he had his reasons for doing what he did'


The mother of the teenager who slaughtered 19 children and two teachers at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, said he 'had his reasons.'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...Mother-shooter-asks-people-not-judge-son.html

he had his reasons



What a fucked up POS
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Indeed.

There is no valid reason to murder 8-9-10 year old children.
 
wants people to forgive HER ?

sounds like there was a shit load more to this than him getting picked on...

I guess she wants to be able to go to Walmart and not get beaten up.
 
That woman just lost her son both spiritually and physically. This child she loved became an "evil" she cannot comprehend and she cannot reconcile her memories of the child she knew, this person she loved unconditionally, with what happened.

I understand why most folks cannot find compassion for her plight; however (for me) she is not the shooter and I know her grief is massive. That she's able to string words together that make sense in English through this wall of grief is surprising.
 
Damocles said:
That woman just lost her son both spiritually and physically. This child she loved became an "evil" she cannot comprehend and she cannot reconcile her memories of the child she knew, this person she loved unconditionally, with what happened.

I understand why most folks cannot find compassion for her plight; however (for me) she is not the shooter and I know her grief is massive. That she's able to string words together that make sense in English through this wall of grief is surprising.
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She raised the evil POS
 
Damocles said:
That woman just lost her son both spiritually and physically. This child she loved became an "evil" she cannot comprehend and she cannot reconcile her memories of the child she knew, this person she loved unconditionally, with what happened.

I understand why most folks cannot find compassion for her plight; however (for me) she is not the shooter and I know her grief is massive. That she's able to string words together that make sense in English through this wall of grief is surprising.
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I respect your opinion here, but I also have a strong suspicion her parenting will prove a great deal of culpability
 
volsrock said:
She raised the evil POS
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As I said, I understand why most folks cannot find compassion for her plight. I hold no ill will for those who think differently. I just know where and why I come to this. So I did my best to explain it.
 
Damocles said:
That woman just lost her son both spiritually and physically. This child she loved became an "evil" she cannot comprehend and she cannot reconcile her memories of the child she knew, this person she loved unconditionally, with what happened.

I understand why most folks cannot find compassion for her plight; however (for me) she is not the shooter and I know her grief is massive. That she's able to string words together that make sense in English through this wall of grief is surprising.
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Thank you, that was beautifully stated.
 
Damocles said:
That woman just lost her son both spiritually and physically. This child she loved became an "evil" she cannot comprehend and she cannot reconcile her memories of the child she knew, this person she loved unconditionally, with what happened.

I understand why most folks cannot find compassion for her plight; however (for me) she is not the shooter and I know her grief is massive. That she's able to string words together that make sense in English through this wall of grief is surprising.
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Perhaps, instead of the first thought... "That woman just lost her son both spiritually and physically." we could lead with, "19 children from 7 years of age to 9 years of age and two adults have tragically lost their lives due to a disturbed individual who had a mother who did not care enough for society to raise her son with the knowledge that it is wrong to murder anyone.

Her grief is overwhelmed by the other 20 lost lives.

Compassion, in this case, is reserved for the other 20 families.
 
Damocles said:
That woman just lost her son both spiritually and physically. This child she loved became an "evil" she cannot comprehend and she cannot reconcile her memories of the child she knew, this person she loved unconditionally, with what happened.

I understand why most folks cannot find compassion for her plight; however (for me) she is not the shooter and I know her grief is massive. That she's able to string words together that make sense in English through this wall of grief is surprising.
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Why they call them mothers
 
Earl said:
Perhaps, instead of the first thought... "That woman just lost her son both spiritually and physically." we could lead with, "19 children from 7 years of age to 9 years of age and two adults have tragically lost their lives due to a disturbed individual who had a mother who did not care enough for society to raise her son with the knowledge that it is wrong to murder anyone.

Her grief is overwhelmed by the other 20 lost lives.

Compassion, in this case, is reserved for the other 20 families.
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I hold compassion for all of them.
 
Damocles said:
I hold compassion for all of them.
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I don’t know the history of this deranged mass-murderer but in many cases, there is no male influence. Teenage boys dominate their mothers.

The moral structure of America is crumbling before our eyes. The far left calls for more gun control while Chicago, with some of the most strict gun laws in America, has some of the highest murder rates in America.

Someone is responsible for this murderer’s home life. Where is the Father?

Again, my priority for compassion is with the victims and their families. The last priority is with the woman who raised the animal.
 
Damocles said:
That woman just lost her son both spiritually and physically. This child she loved became an "evil" she cannot comprehend and she cannot reconcile her memories of the child she knew, this person she loved unconditionally, with what happened.

I understand why most folks cannot find compassion for her plight; however (for me) she is not the shooter and I know her grief is massive. That she's able to string words together that make sense in English through this wall of grief is surprising.
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Very well written. :thup:
 
Earl said:
I don’t know the history of this deranged mass-murderer but in many cases, there is no male influence. Teenage boys dominate their mothers.

The moral structure of America is crumbling before our eyes. The far left calls for more gun control while Chicago, with some of the most strict gun laws in America, has some of the highest murder rates in America.

Someone is responsible for this murderer’s home life. Where is the Father?

Again, my priority for compassion is with the victims and their families. The last priority is with the woman who raised the animal.
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Yes, one thing the majority of these shooters have in common, is the lack of a strong man in their lives.
 
Bigdog said:
Yes, one thing the majority of these shooters have in common, is the lack of a strong man in their lives.
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Yea..no.

Dylan Roof's father gave him the weapon he used to murder a group of churchgoers.

Same for the kid whose parents went on the run after he committed mass murder.
 
Althea said:
Yea..no.

Dylan Roof's father gave him the weapon he used to murder a group of churchgoers.

Same for the kid whose parents went on the run after he committed mass murder.
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Not according to NYT ...

"
Dylann Roof's Past Reveals Trouble at Home and Schoolhttps://www.nytimes.com › 2015/07/17 › charleston-sh...
Jul 16, 2015 — 45-caliber handgun with money his father had given him for his 21st birthday. Last week, the F.B.I. said Mr. Roof should have been barred from ..."

I don't know who the other kid was, .... but as I said "the majority". You want to prove that is a false statement, I welcome you to do so.
 
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Earl said:
Perhaps, instead of the first thought... "That woman just lost her son both spiritually and physically." we could lead with, "19 children from 7 years of age to 9 years of age and two adults have tragically lost their lives due to a disturbed individual who had a mother who did not care enough for society to raise her son with the knowledge that it is wrong to murder anyone.

Her grief is overwhelmed by the other 20 lost lives.

Compassion, in this case, is reserved for the other 20 families.
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Before I pass judgement on the mother, I want to know what his home life was like. His upbringing.
If I had an 18 year old who just killed 19 kids for no reason and was killed also, I'd be a fucking
basket case. Her words can easily show anxiety for the victim's families, but also the motherly
protection of a child. At 18, I'm sure she had to give him his privacy, I doubt she had knowledge
of what he was doing on the internet.
But the son-of-a-bitch shot his grandmother, then went to an elementary school and shot everything
that moved. He was unquestionably evil. No sane minded individual could do what he did. Or even think of it.
Did he leave her "tell tale" signs that she ignored?
Or could it be possible she had no knowledge of his dealings?
 
RB 60 said:
Before I pass judgement on the mother, I want to know what his home life was like. His upbringing.
If I had an 18 year old who just killed 19 kids for no reason and was killed also, I'd be a fucking
basket case. Her words can easily show anxiety for the victim's families, but also the motherly
protection of a child. At 18, I'm sure she had to give him his privacy, I doubt she had knowledge
of what he was doing on the internet.
But the son-of-a-bitch shot his grandmother, then went to an elementary school and shot everything
that moved. He was unquestionably evil. No sane minded individual could do what he did. Or even think of it.
Did he leave her "tell tale" signs that she ignored?
Or could it be possible she had no knowledge of his dealings?
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“Ramos moved from the Hood Street home to his grandmother’s home across town a few months ago, Flores said. He said he last saw the grandmother on Sunday, when she stopped by the Hood Street property, which she also owned. The grandmother told him she was in the process of evicting Ramos’s mother because of her drug problems, Flores said.”


“Multiple people familiar with the family, including Ruben Flores, 41, said Ramos’s mother used drugs, which contributed to the upheaval in the home. Ramos has an older sister. She is serving in the Navy, military officials confirmed Wednesday.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/05/25/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-gunman/
 
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