"Texas elementary school shooting: 16 dead, including 14 kids"

hey fuckstick, take a moment and consider that when the members of SCOTUS appeared to be under threat of danger, the government created a law to provide them ARMED PROTECTION!!!!!!! why the fuck don't you cowards demand the same thing for your kids? the problem isn't access to guns, it's lack of intestinal fortitude of parents to provide proper protection for their kids in schools.

Blow me chunderbreath. Don't you think it's cool that the NRA convention is this weekend and that open carry is allowed everywhere in TX - except at the NRA convention? How much of a fucking hypocrite and a gun fucking flame freak can you be?

Try to grow a conscience and then a brain, shit kicker.
 
No. The problem is the ease of access to guns, like the high-velocity rifle the psycho used in TX yesterday. You know some of the kids were so mutilated the parents needed DNA to ID them? Let that sink in, asshole and then tell us all about the mental illness - which by the way is in every country in the world. The difference is our access to guns.

None of my guns ever hurt anyone while in my possession. The problem isn't the guns but that a nutjob had access to them.

The Democratic solution is to ban all guns. My solution is to screen everyone for mental health issues as part of an annual medical screening process. Preventive medicine is very cost effective. Laws will have to be drawn up to not only require the tests but what to do about the results.

The only reason I can think of on why Democrats don't want to go the Mental Health route is because, if a person is judged to be too mentally ill to own a gun, they should also be too mentally ill to vote. Obviously those who have been successfully treated should have their rights returned.
 
This has long been trouble without a solution. There was Cruz yesterday, sighing and saying if only more police, as pathetic a picture of a leader as you could imagine. And here, the pathetic threads of back and forth over race.
The problem is our gun culture in the midst of our dysfunctional society. Not much can be done about the guns. By now far too many are out there. And the organic nature of social dysfunctions deprives them of simple fixes. Look at the havoc social media has caused and causes or, again, at the ignorance and incivility on this forum; our own infinitesimal contribution to the mess we are in. You tell me without bullshit how it all can be dealt with.
 
hey, MORON, why are you such a coward? do YOU carry a gun to protect your kids? WHY THE FUCK NOT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Oh, I get it now. You're a kid who got ahold of his mom's keyboard. Better to know this now, than later. See you after you get your pubes, kid.
 
Blow me chunderbreath. Don't you think it's cool that the NRA convention is this weekend and that open carry is allowed everywhere in TX - except at the NRA convention? How much of a fucking hypocrite and a gun fucking flame freak can you be?

Try to grow a conscience and then a brain, shit kicker.

I'm not a member of Negotiate Rights Away, low info liberal. let me know when you've graduated junior high so you can actually claim to have some intelligence
 
None of my guns ever hurt anyone while in my possession. The problem isn't the guns but that a nutjob had access to them.

The Democratic solution is to ban all guns. My solution is to screen everyone for mental health issues as part of an annual medical screening process. Preventive medicine is very cost effective. Laws will have to be drawn up to not only require the tests but what to do about the results.

The only reason I can think of on why Democrats don't want to go the Mental Health route is because, if a person is judged to be too mentally ill to own a gun, they should also be too mentally ill to vote. Obviously those who have been successfully treated should have their rights returned.

You're blaming the Democrats. Why not Republicans? Oh. Right.
 
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American society suffers from a glorified mental illness.
 
Oh, I get it now. You're a kid who got ahold of his mom's keyboard. Better to know this now, than later. See you after you get your pubes, kid.

standard liberal playbook...........walk away in shame, throwing infantile remarks, after being beaten about the head and shoulders with FACTS

don't go away mad, just go the fuck away
 
It's awful and I think we all know it. The thing is, do we do something or nothing! Doing nothing has not helped.

I would think that Texas, as much of a Law Enforcement state as they are, and as much of a Gun-loving state as we are, would want to start licensing people to own and sell guns.

It may not totally prevent these kinds of unimaginable insane shootings, but it may prevent more sales of guns to the wrong people, and may even help prevent the sale of illegal weapons.

No one wants to risk loosing their license to own or sale guns, because they sold or purchased a gun illegally- and without a back-ground check!

The current background checks aren't worth a shit, all they do is find out if you are a past convicted felon. A background check that looks more closely at someone's background and a 30 day waiting period to accomplish that check might help. It seems inside of a day or 2 in practically every case it is revealed that the shooter has mental problems. Why don't we make that determination BEFORE someone sells them a gun?
 
We have only needed to harden schools because this country sells guns like candy to any mentally deranged person who wants one. Thanks to republicans.

It's against the law to sell firearms to those who have been adjudicated to have a mental disorder. It's on the ATF form to purchase a firearm: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4...n-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download

21. Answer the following questions by checking or marking either the “yes” or “no” box to the right of the questions: Yes No
a. Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) (ATF Form 5300.9A)?
Warning: You are not the actual transferee/buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are
not the actual transferee/buyer, the licensee cannot transfer the firearm(s) to you. Exception: If you are only picking up a repaired
firearm(s) for another person, you are not required to answer 21.a. and may proceed to question 21.b.

b. Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more
than one year, or are you a current member of the military who has been charged with violation(s) of the Uniform Code of Military
Justice and whose charge(s) have been referred to a general court-martial?

c. Have you ever been convicted in any court, including a military court, of a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could have
imprisoned you for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including probation?

d. Are you a fugitive from justice?

e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized
for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.

f. Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution?

g. Have you ever been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions?

h. Are you subject to a court order, including a Military Protection Order issued by a military judge or magistrate, restraining you from
harassing, stalking, or threatening your child or an intimate partner or child of such partner?

i. Have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence, or are you or have you ever been a member of
the military and been convicted of a crime that included, as an element, the use of force against a person as identified in the instructions?

j. Have you ever renounced your United States citizenship?

k. Are you an alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States?

21.l.1. Are you an alien who has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa?

21.l.2. If you are such an alien do you fall within any of the exceptions stated in the instructions? (U.S. citizens/nationals leave 21.l.2. blank)
 
The current background checks aren't worth a shit, all they do is find out if you are a past convicted felon. A background check that looks more closely at someone's background and a 30 day waiting period to accomplish that check might help. It seems inside of a day or 2 in practically every case it is revealed that the shooter has mental problems. Why don't we make that determination BEFORE someone sells them a gun?

Why 30 days? You can get a car loan approved in 10 minutes. Why not any other background check?
 
You're blaming the Democrats. Why not Republicans? Oh. Right.

Because Republicans don't do shit. Scroll up and you'll see this:
Obviously they need work since shootings by nutjobs are still happening.

Even Payton Gendron, the WSE radical, was nutjob. What kind of sane person does such a thing? Most end in suicide, either directly or suicide-by-cop.

Payton pointed his own gun at his head twice but turned into a chickenshit who couldn't pull the trigger on himself after murdering 10 Americans. Regardless, these people are not sane. Our nation isn't helping them nor the tens of thousands who commit suicide each year.

https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics/
Suicide is the 12th leading cause of death in the US

In 2020, 45,979 Americans died by suicide

In 2020, there were an estimated 1.20M suicide attempts

  • The rate of suicide is highest in middle-aged white men.
  • In 2020, men died by suicide 3.88x more than women.
  • On average, there are 130 suicides per day.
  • White males accounted for 69.68% of suicide deaths in 2020.
  • In 2020, firearms accounted for 52.83% of all suicide deaths.


The Democrats will focus on banning guns because they want the power to control the population. They don't give a shit about non-gun suicides.

The Republicans will do nothing because they don't give a shit about anyone.
 
It's against the law to sell firearms to those who have been adjudicated to have a mental disorder. It's on the ATF form to purchase a firearm: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4...n-record-over-counter-atf-form-53009/download

21. Answer the following questions by checking or marking either the “yes” or “no” box to the right of the questions: Yes No
a. Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) (ATF Form 5300.9A)?
Warning: You are not the actual transferee/buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are
not the actual transferee/buyer, the licensee cannot transfer the firearm(s) to you. Exception: If you are only picking up a repaired
firearm(s) for another person, you are not required to answer 21.a. and may proceed to question 21.b.

b. Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more
than one year, or are you a current member of the military who has been charged with violation(s) of the Uniform Code of Military
Justice and whose charge(s) have been referred to a general court-martial?

c. Have you ever been convicted in any court, including a military court, of a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could have
imprisoned you for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including probation?

d. Are you a fugitive from justice?

e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?
Warning: The use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized
for medicinal or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.

f. Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective OR have you ever been committed to a mental institution?

g. Have you ever been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions?

h. Are you subject to a court order, including a Military Protection Order issued by a military judge or magistrate, restraining you from
harassing, stalking, or threatening your child or an intimate partner or child of such partner?

i. Have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence, or are you or have you ever been a member of
the military and been convicted of a crime that included, as an element, the use of force against a person as identified in the instructions?

j. Have you ever renounced your United States citizenship?

k. Are you an alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States?

21.l.1. Are you an alien who has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa?

21.l.2. If you are such an alien do you fall within any of the exceptions stated in the instructions? (U.S. citizens/nationals leave 21.l.2. blank)

Are you expecting a mentally deranged person to answer those questions truthfully? The form is fucking useless.
 
Because Republicans don't do shit. Scroll up and you'll see this:

Alright. Man. Even though my posting may not reflect it, my emotions are running a little high right now. Yes, the Dems are weak but at least they want what's right - today's Republicans, in my opinion are doing this nation real harm. Did you see the sprint to ID the asshole as an "illegal immigrant" by our Repub buddies? I'm willing to bet a large percentage of the MAGA crowd actually believes that.

Anyway...
 
Alright. Man. Even though my posting may not reflect it, my emotions are running a little high right now. Yes, the Dems are weak but at least they want what's right - today's Republicans, in my opinion are doing this nation real harm. Did you see the sprint to ID the asshole as an "illegal immigrant" by our Repub buddies? I'm willing to bet a large percentage of the MAGA crowd actually believes that.

Anyway...

Dude, any party that serves itself first and seeks to deprive all Americans of their unalienable rights is an oppressive party and not one I'll belong. Yes, I'm not longer a Republican party member now either for the reasons such as you pointed out.

The Republican party is now an authoritarian Federalist party supporting big government over state's rights.
 
is that the same background check that Obama claimed was being performed on all the migrants coming over the southern border?

Not sure which that one was, but there's no reason there isn't a national data base for businesses to check to verify eligibility to work, rent/buy or own a gun.

A pawn shop clerk running a background check doesn't need to know the buyer's medical history, just whether the buyer passes or not. If it's not, then the buyer should be given a code reference number to contact an agency on why his purchase was denied.
 
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