Democrats and Rural Voters

Trends toward Republicans began in the 1930s and accelerated in the 1950s when Ike won a plurality of the Southern vote in 1956. Blacks began voting Democratic in 1934.

Yes, I referenced that with the Dixiecrat revolt. They were founded back in 1948, when southern whites got pissed off about Harry Truman desegregating the military. The less racist the Democrats got, the better the GOP did with southern whites... especially undereducated rural ones. The 1960's, though, were the last straw for some of the racist Democratic leaders, though. Between around 1962 and 1972, Thurmond, Helms, Lott, and Reagan switched party, outraged by the idea that Black people are humans.
 
Yes, I referenced that with the Dixiecrat revolt. They were founded back in 1948, when southern whites got pissed off about Harry Truman desegregating the military. The less racist the Democrats got, the better the GOP did with southern whites... especially undereducated rural ones. The 1960's, though, were the last straw for some of the racist Democratic leaders, though. Between around 1962 and 1972, Thurmond, Helms, Lott, and Reagan switched party, outraged by the idea that Black people are humans.

If these people have any doubts Reagan was a racist, just read about his recorded conversation with Richard Nixon

“Reagan forged ahead with his complaint: “To see those, those monkeys from those African countries—damn them, they’re still uncomfortable wearing shoes!” Nixon gave a huge laugh.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...ans-racist-conversation-richard-nixon/595102/
 
Trump did both.

he was anti-globalist/ proworker. and, yes, anti-globalist IS actually the pro-worker position.

Unfortunately, his idea of anti-globalism was slapping a new name on NAFTA and then starting a trade war with China that did more harm than good.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/donald-trumps-trade-wars-did-more-harm-good-171438

and it was anti-lawlessness.

Unfortunately, despite all his talk about law-and-order, as a way to scare timid white folks into voting for him during the election, his era was marked by incredible lawlessness -- including the Trump Crime Family's corruption of the presidency for personal gain, the failed insurrection, and the biggest single-year murder-rate surge in American history.
 
we're done. look at the polls.
I get that a lot from the mindless partisans when I present facts for which their media hens haven't vomited up pre-digested talking points into their baby bird mouths. The reality is what I said: 2021 has the strongest growth in almost 40 years, and the unemployment rate is now near record lows. And, historically, that kind of prosperity tends to favor Republican candidates. Seriously, when has the unemployment ever been well under 4% without it being a bloodbath for Democrats?
 
If these people have any doubts Reagan was a racist, just read about his recorded conversation with Richard Nixon

“Reagan forged ahead with his complaint: “To see those, those monkeys from those African countries—damn them, they’re still uncomfortable wearing shoes!” Nixon gave a huge laugh.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...ans-racist-conversation-richard-nixon/595102/

Yep. For years, his apologists tried to excuse all the dog-whistle stuff, but at this point we've seen clearly who he was when he thought only the good-ole-boys were listening.
 
I get that a lot from the mindless partisans when I present facts for which their media hens haven't vomited up pre-digested talking points into their baby bird mouths. The reality is what I said: 2021 has the strongest growth in almost 40 years, and the unemployment rate is now near record lows. And, historically, that kind of prosperity tends to favor Republican candidates. Seriously, when has the unemployment ever been well under 4% without it being a bloodbath for Democrats?
soo you completely missed inflation? -why i called you a mindless partisan

riddle me this: do you get Trump was adding millions of jobs as well during the COVID recovery?
Did you look at unemployment and jobs created by Trump as well as household income increasing by $6500 under Trump (pre-COVID)

how come inflation didn't start till the Biden election, and then take off thru the roof when Biden took office?
is this that "temporary inflation"

look woman. I dont play stupid games' -i will engage in honest debate
I am not a mindless partisan. I voted for Obama the first time, and I think getting rid of Roe v Wade
is un-needed and counteproductive by SCOTUS
 
Unfortunately, his idea of anti-globalism was slapping a new name on NAFTA and then starting a trade war with China that did more harm than good.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/donald-trumps-trade-wars-did-more-harm-good-171438



Unfortunately, despite all his talk about law-and-order, as a way to scare timid white folks into voting for him during the election, his era was marked by incredible lawlessness -- including the Trump Crime Family's corruption of the presidency for personal gain, the failed insurrection, and the biggest single-year murder-rate surge in American history.

nope.

the trade war needs to be fought. and he made great headway with tariffs.

subsidizing some farmers is worth it.

globalism is just chinese mercantilism translated into the language of the traitors amongst the victim group.
 
nope.
the trade war needs to be fought. and he made great headway with tariffs.

subsidizing some farmers is worth it.

globalism is just chinese mercantilism translated into the language of the traitors amongst the victim group.
Katherine Tai (current US trade rep) was supposedly going to continue to enforce Phase 1
China deal'
Then Biden forgot about it

Why Biden is keeping Trump's China tariffs in place
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/26/politics/china-tariffs-biden-policy/index.html
 
soo you completely missed inflation?

No. The economic growth I'm talking about in 2021 was the best in almost forty years AFTER ACCOUNTING FOR INFLATION. That's real GDP growth.

why i called you a mindless partisan

I know why you did -- you were getting stomped and were trying to come up with some cover for your retreat. I'm glad that you seem to have found your testicles and have reenaged.

riddle me this: do you get Trump was adding millions of jobs as well during the COVID recovery?

2020 was one of the worst years in history for job losses. Yes, we had a period of job creation in the middle-part of the year, as shutdowns ended and furloughed workers returned. But, it was far fewer new jobs than would be needed to replace the jobs lost.... and, more troublingly, it had petered out by year's end. In December 2020, we actually were back to net job losses. Fortunately, once Biden took office, we had consistent and robust job creation every single month.

Did you look at unemployment and jobs created by Trump as well as household income increasing by $6500 under Trump (pre-COVID)

It's telling that Republican apologetics nearly always have to take the form of directing people to look only at a particular cherry-picked sub-set of a period. For example, the Bush years were great if you obediently avert your eyes from both of his recessions. Same with Eisenhower (only he led us into three recessions, not just two). Reagan's time was good if you pretend 1981 and 1982 didn't happen. And Trump's was good if you ignore the last fourth of his presidency. I don't believe in such cherry-picking gamesmanship, though. The reality is Trump inherited a prosperous nation with a growing economy and left a basket case in his wake.

how come inflation didn't start till the Biden election

Money supply is generally seen as having impacts on prices years down the road, because it takes a while for monetary-supply assumptions to get built into pricing decisions. That's why traditionally analysis of the inflation of the mid-1970's through early-1980's looks at policy decisions made in the late 1960's and early 1970's:

https://www.federalreservehistory.org/essays/great-inflation

So, we need to look at the years leading up to 2021 to see why inflation showed up then. One of the most telling episodes was back in 2019. At the time, inflation was already a little over the Fed's target. Yet they cut rates in July 2019, September 2019, and October 2019.

With ultra-low unemployment and inflation above target, all prior Fed-policy history would say it was time to hike rates, but instead they went the exact opposite way. Basically, Trump had been "working the refs" -- whining about interest rates not being lower-- and the Fed had responded with a slew of rate cuts, pouring gasoline on the economic fire right ahead of the election, to try to help Trump get reelected. But, the expected result was that the economy came to expect low rates even in the face of low-and-falling unemployment and rising inflation. That expectation got worked into pricing once the Trump recession year was followed by the Biden Boom, and now we have soaring prices. Throw global supply chain problems into the mix, and it's a thorny issue.
 
So, is that true?

We have the transcripts telling us exactly what each candidate said at the convention. Clinton spoke of "working people" four times, Trump once. For Trump, it was a one-liner about how his (slum-lord) father taught him to respect working people. For Clinton, those four references were part of the main section of her speech, which served as its central theme, talking about the struggles of working people and what the government could do to help:

Republicans are not able to say hard truths. Sometimes we have to sacrifice. Sometimes there is hard work to get what we want. Usually some part of things are not working.

Instead, Republicans say there are easy answers, with no work, and infinite upside. When they fail to deliver, there is suddenly a deep state, or Jewish conspiracy keeping them back.

When I asked one alt right poster for any hard truths that DeSantis has ever said, the alt right posters could only list supposed "easy solutions" that had been supposedly messed up by some dark conspiracy.
 
It didn't.



He didn't.



Globalism long predates the recent rise of China, and no country has benefited more from it in the modern era than the United States.

allowing slave labor into the international market is a big mistake.

that's why prior to the 1990s china was embargoed. it's called morality look into.

human slavery is not a legitimate comparative advantage.
 
No. The economic growth I'm talking about in 2021 was the best in almost forty years AFTER ACCOUNTING FOR INFLATION. That's real GDP growth.



I know why you did -- you were getting stomped and were trying to come up with some cover for your retreat. I'm glad that you seem to have found your testicles and have reenaged.



2020 was one of the worst years in history for job losses. Yes, we had a period of job creation in the middle-part of the year, as shutdowns ended and furloughed workers returned. But, it was far fewer new jobs than would be needed to replace the jobs lost.... and, more troublingly, it had petered out by year's end. In December 2020, we actually were back to net job losses. Fortunately, once Biden took office, we had consistent and robust job creation every single month.



It's telling that Republican apologetics nearly always have to take the form of directing people to look only at a particular cherry-picked sub-set of a period. For example, the Bush years were great if you obediently avert your eyes from both of his recessions. Same with Eisenhower (only he led us into three recessions, not just two). Reagan's time was good if you pretend 1981 and 1982 didn't happen. And Trump's was good if you ignore the last fourth of his presidency. I don't believe in such cherry-picking gamesmanship, though. The reality is Trump inherited a prosperous nation with a growing economy and left a basket case in his wake.



Money supply is generally seen as having impacts on prices years down the road, because it takes a while for monetary-supply assumptions to get built into pricing decisions. That's why traditionally analysis of the inflation of the mid-1970's through early-1980's looks at policy decisions made in the late 1960's and early 1970's:

https://www.federalreservehistory.org/essays/great-inflation

So, we need to look at the years leading up to 2021 to see why inflation showed up then. One of the most telling episodes was back in 2019. At the time, inflation was already a little over the Fed's target. Yet they cut rates in July 2019, September 2019, and October 2019.

With ultra-low unemployment and inflation above target, all prior Fed-policy history would say it was time to hike rates, but instead they went the exact opposite way. Basically, Trump had been "working the refs" -- whining about interest rates not being lower-- and the Fed had responded with a slew of rate cuts, pouring gasoline on the economic fire right ahead of the election, to try to help Trump get reelected. But, the expected result was that the economy came to expect low rates even in the face of low-and-falling unemployment and rising inflation. That expectation got worked into pricing once the Trump recession year was followed by the Biden Boom, and now we have soaring prices. Throw global supply chain problems into the mix, and it's a thorny issue.

yer dum as fuck.
 
It has nothing to do with being 'rural'. Plenty of rural Blacks in the southern States.

Maine Demographics
White: 94.31% Two or more races: 2.23% Black or African American: 1.38% Asian: 1.13%

trump's best base is rural uneducated whites. Most Blacks, and educated people do not like trump. Rural people who are Black and/or educated, are not good supporters of trump.

There is one better indicator of a trump voter, and that is worsening health outcomes. Since the pandemic has started, most health outcomes are worse, but before the pandemic, most people were living longer. There were a few places, like Syria, where things were getting worse, but most places things were getting better.

In America, we had three years where life expectancy fell. Most Americans actually saw normal rising life expectancy, but trump voters were doing so badly, they dragged down the rest. This is a better correlation than rural uneducated whites. For some reason, trump voters are doing unhealthy things that are killing them.

No one has been able to explain to me what is going on there. More people have died from this trump voter self destruction than from AIDS or Covid, and no one seems to know why.
 
As very white as Maine is, overall, it's even whiter in rural parts of the state. Like Somerset County is 96.4% white. Piscataquis County has about 100 Black people, total.

The places both in America and England that hates immigrants most are the places that immigrants never go. I do not understand it.
 
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