The SCOTUS is about to overturn Roe V Wade.

Eagle_Eye

Eagle_Eye

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Looks like abortion rights are being returned to the states. What are the pros and cons. Of this action.

Looking at it from a purely constitutional standpoint Roe overrode states rights.

Before you blow a fuse, I am not endorsing nor condemming the action. I submit this argument.
The Tenth Amendment’s simple language—“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people”—emphasizes that the inclusion of a bill of rights does not change the fundamental character of the national government. It remains a government of limited and enumerated powers, so that the first question involving an exercise of federal power is not whether it violates someone’s rights, but whether it exceeds the national government’s enumerated powers.
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There are some rights that are just too important to let states decide, abortion is one of those.
 
Not everyone is a christian nor should laws be based on what the majority religion thinks, they are free not to avail themselves, but to decide for other? No way

Jewish law does not share the belief common among abortion opponents that life begins at conception, nor does it legally consider the fetus to be a full person deserving of protections equal those accorded to human beings. In Jewish law, a fetus attains the status of a full person only at birth. Sources in the Talmud indicate that prior to 40 days of gestation, the fetus has an even more limited legal status, with one Talmudic authority (Yevamot 69b) asserting that prior to 40 days the fetus is “mere water.” Elsewhere, the Talmud indicates that the ancient rabbis regarded a fetus as part of its mother throughout the pregnancy, dependent fully on her for its life — a view that echoes the position that women should be free to make decisions concerning their own bodies.
 
Ironic, the original Republican Court that voted 7-2 in favor in Roe v Wade based their decision on privacy rights, yet the one argument you see less in these discussions are those privacy rights.

Secondly, I find it amazing that some people are actually shocked over this decision or predicted decision. It was always going to be the top priority of Thomas, Ailito, and Trump’s Justices to overturn Roe v Wade. Guarantee the Federalist Society made such the bottom line before they recommended anyone to Trump, and Alito’s confirmation hearings are now classic examples of flat out lying

Third, why do those on the right think the Government should enforce their religious beliefs? If American Muslims in a city, town, or village where they were the majority voice in that area’s government made hijabs mandatory for women would the right defend the decision?

And lastly, I am not interested in “arguing” abortion, it is comparable to playing tic-tac-toe, and being a practicing Irish Roman Catholic, I am not disturbed by the decision, but I still don’t understand why some people see that it is not the Government’s job to enforce others beliefs
 
Eagle_Eye said:
I must disagree. I believe each state's voters should decide the abortion issue for their state.
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This isn't about belief, it's about the Constitution. The right to privacy that provided women with the right to an abortion is, according to Roe v. Wade, enshrined in the Constitution. Two SCOTUS judges in the last few years have described it, during their confirmation hearings, as 'settled law' that is relied on. When they made those statements, they were lying.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
Looks like abortion rights are being returned to the states. What are the pros and cons. Of this action.

Looking at it from a purely constitutional standpoint Roe overrode states rights.

Before you blow a fuse, I am not endorsing nor condemming the action. I submit this argument.
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Your argument fails because the tenth amendment does not apply to powers delegated SOLELY to the United States by the Constitution. It's right there in the wording.
 
Phantasmal said:
There are some rights that are just too important to let states decide, abortion is one of those.
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I'm going to have to go with this as well. The same is true of other important rights, like marriage including SSM. No doubt that's the Xtian Sharia's next target.
 
No women will want to stay in those states


You will have states with way more males than females
 
evince said:
So only women in certain states have medical privacy rights?


Guess what happens to those states now
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"Medical privacy?" You mean the right to kill a baby, right? It is....what it is.

Let the states decide.

Nothing happens to those states. Life goes on and inflation continues to rise.
 
BartenderElite said:
Not trying to be snarky, but why should states decide?

Why does a woman in Alabama have completely different rights over her own body compared to a woman in Massachusetts?
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Because that was the way the US was intended to work from the start. Why should someone in Alabama have completely different gun rights than someone in Massachusetts?
 
Concart said:
Your argument fails because the tenth amendment does not apply to powers delegated SOLELY to the United States by the Constitution. It's right there in the wording.
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Ok I'll play, what amendment makes abortion regulation and enumerated power?
Delegated (sometimes called enumerated or expressed) powers are specifically granted to the federal government in Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution. This includes the power to coin money, to regulate commerce, to declare war, to raise and maintain armed forces, and to establish a Post Office.
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T. A. Gardner said:
Because that was the way the US was intended to work from the start. Why should someone in Alabama have completely different gun rights than someone in Massachusetts?
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Poor analogy. People in both states can buy guns.

But soon, people in both states won't be able to get abortions.
 
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