Pope Francis Says NATO Started War in Ukraine by ‘Barking at Putin’s Door’

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feel that before going to Kyiv, I must go to Moscow,” he told Corriere Della Sera in an interview that ran Tuesday. But the meeting would not exactly be to condemn Putin, based on what he told the paper. He said that the real “scandal” of Putin’s war is “NATO barking at Russia’s door,” which he said caused the Kremlin to “react badly and unleash the conflict.”
In Ukraine, it seems that it was others who created the conflict. I am pessimistic but we must do everything possible to stop the war.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pope-francis-says-nato-started-135952616.html
 
some are startung to get it - but it's too late to stop our war on Russia

Pelosi and Schiff went to meet Zelensky and said they supported "victory"
( now with long range artillery that can reach into Russia)
 
"Predicate" is just another word for "lame excuse."

This is one man's war. NATO didn't start this war.
no "predicate" is an actual term
It mean "root causes" - like Harris clueless statements about the southern border invasion of economic migrants

Biden invited them in = "predicate"
 
no "predicate" is an actual term
It mean "root causes" - like Harris clueless statements about the southern border invasion of economic migrants

Biden invited them in = "predicate"

The Ukraine is a free, independent & sovereign nation.

Who they want to ally with, and what organizations they want to join, are up to them. Putin has zero say. He's a mass murderer, and international outlaw.
 
you really have no idea of the predicate for this war.

are you in for victory? degrading Russia military? - and other war with Russia goals?

I have no idea what a win looks like to either side but whatever it is will not be final.
There will be long term simmering resentment that will no doubt raise it’s ugly head in the future.
 
I have no idea what a win looks like to either side but whatever it is will not be final. There will be long term simmering resentment that will no doubt raise it’s ugly head in the future.

If there is a future for humanity. If there's a nuclear exchange, there isn't likely to be one.
 
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Putin apologists are everywhere, it would seem.


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If there is a future for humanity. If there's a nuclear exchange, there isn't likely to be one.

There will be one eventually, of that I have no doubt. In my lifetime? Won’t predict that. But I predict the initial one would be limited then stopped after both sides see the insanity of it.
 
There will be one eventually, of that I have no doubt. In my lifetime? Won’t predict that. But I predict the initial one would be limited then stopped after both sides see the insanity of it.

And it's likely to be soon if the Obama-era bunglers continue.
 
Russian nationalists have considered Ukraine to be an integral part of Holy Russia since at least Tsarina Catherine the Great, and have sought to dominate Ukraine ever since.

NATO's existence has never changed that calculus.

Putin has wanted to stitch back together the Holy Rus empire since the early 1990s, at least.
 
you really have no idea of the predicate for this war.

are you in for victory? degrading Russia military? - and other war with Russia goals?

It seems you have no idea what "barking at the door" means. If my dog is barking at the door, it is no threat to anyone on the other side of the door and can not be used as a legal excuse to break down my door and rob my house.
 
It seems you have no idea what "barking at the door" means. If my dog is barking at the door, it is no threat to anyone on the other side of the door and can not be used as a legal excuse to break down my door and rob my house.
barking at RUSSIA's door not "your door"
this the best you got?
 
I have no idea what a win looks like to either side but whatever it is will not be final.
There will be long term simmering resentment that will no doubt raise it’s ugly head in the future.
and that's it.
There isn't going to be any peace because Ukraine and USA don' want it
The gangsters in the Biden adminstration along with a few dweebs like Adam Kinzinger are all in for regime change in Russia

It's not about defending Ukraine / it's about going after Putin as Russian president
 
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