Why Americans Are Leaving Downtowns in Droves

[Sailor]

I honestly wish you were right. It would be great to have a cheap apartment in the city.

Spoke like the true welfare collecting asshole you are. No surprise there

 

[cancel2 2022]

The Atlantic is hardly a right-wing publication. They site data from the Bookings Institute which is a powerful left leaning think tank. It's interesting that ideology is so strong that people can't accept the basic facts of these numbers. (and this is bigger than just NYC)

Arsecheese is from New York, says it all!

 

[Hawkeye10]

The Atlantic is hardly a right-wing publication. They site data from the Bookings Institute which is a powerful left leaning think tank. It's interesting that ideology is so strong that people can't accept the basic facts of these numbers. (and this is bigger than just NYC)

The Atlantic is all the way WOKE now. That and Vanity Fair were the last mags I read, but they both turned to shit so I had to give them up. I used to read a lot of mags, Hell, I subscribed to Us News and World Report and Newsweek when I was in Middle School.

 

[cancel2 2022]

their not leaving liar

Can't you get your sugar daddy to buy you a dictionary?

 

[Hawkeye10]

My dad worked for the Rockford Newspapers, and his dad spent most of his life as a print shop owner in Kenosha....the love of print runs in my veins.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Out of curiosity does anyone else here live in a City of over say at least 250K people?

unique situation here......there are close to a million people within 20 miles of here.....but my town has a population of about 4500......I can drive to farmland within four miles of my house in all four directions

 

[Walt]

Spoke like the true welfare collecting asshole you are. No surprise there

"Welfare collecting assholes" like to own a house in the suburbs and have an apartment in an expensive city? Really?

 

[Lightbringer]

My dad worked for the Rockford Newspapers, and his dad spent most of his life as a print shop owner in Kenosha....the love of print runs in my veins.

I didn't know there was a Rockford, North Korea.

 

[gemini104104]

Why Americans Are Leaving Downtowns in Droves

https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2022/04/metro-areas-shrinking-population-loss/629665/

Pop quiz: What do the metros of New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Miami, Boston, Seattle, San Francisco, San Diego, Minneapolis–St. Paul, Philadelphia, and Washington, D.C., have in common?

They are all among the 20 largest metropolitan areas in the country. All of their populations were growing in 2011. And then, in 2021, they all shrank by a combined 900,000 people, according to an analysis of census data by the Brookings scholar William Frey. That’s an urban exodus nearly the size of two Wyomings.

The great metro shrinkage is part of a larger demographic story. Last year, the U.S. growth rate fell to a record low. The major drivers of population—migration and births—declined, while deaths soared in the pandemic. But America’s largest cities are getting the worst of this national trend. In the past three years, the net number of moves out of Manhattan has increased tenfold. In every urban county within the metros of New York City, Los Angeles, and San Francisco, immigration declined by at least 50 percent from 2018 to 2021. In downtown Detroit and Long Island, deaths actually exceeded births last year.
more at link.....

And of course all of those cities are run by democrats.....rats leaving a sinking ship.

Why don't you and these other worthless parasitical trolls leave at being incapable of supporting and co-existing in a civilized society. Consider big facts versus your trolling fiction:

The biggest U.S. metro areas in 2025
Bizjournals is issuing its own population projections for the nation’s 250 largest metropolitan areas, looking as far ahead as 2025.


Projecting population growth is as much an art as a science — and often an inexact art at that. But it still offers an interesting, useful and provocative view of the future.

Bizjournals analyzed recent county-by-county growth patterns within each state, and then used that information to predict metropolitan growth at five-year intervals between 2005 and 2025.

No one can foresee all of the economic twists and demographic turns that the coming two decades will bring, but bizjournals’ projections suggest a range of intriguing possibilities. Here are 10 of particular interest:

1. New York City will retain first place
New York City will retain first place by a comfortable margin.

The nation’s largest metropolitan area is the 23-county New York City region, which spills over into Long Island, New Jersey and Pennsylvania. It had 18.8 million residents in 2005, according to U.S. Census Bureau estimates. No. 2 Los Angeles was far behind at 12.8 million.

Los Angeles is growing more rapidly than New York, but not fast enough to close the gap appreciably. The two giants will still be separated by 5.8 million people in 2025, when New York has 19.8 million residents and Los Angeles has a shade more than 14 million.

2. Houston and Atlanta will climb into the top six
Houston was the nation’s seventh-largest metro in 2005, and Atlanta was No. 9. Both will be moving higher in coming years.

Houston is projected to shoot up to fifth place by 2025, adding almost 2.6 million people to reach a population of nearly 7.9 million. Atlanta is ticketed for sixth place at 7.3 million.

The top four metros, by the way, will maintain precisely the same order over the 20-year period: New York, Los Angeles, Chicago and Dallas-Fort Worth.

3. Detroit will drop out of the top 10, with Phoenix replacing it
Detroit and Phoenix are two of the most economically troubled areas in America today, but their future prospects are considerably different.

Detroit is the only metro expected to slip from the top 10 during the next two decades. It’s projected to fall from 10th place in 2005 to 14th place in 2025, losing 59,500 residents during that span.

Phoenix, on the other hand, is likely to bounce back strongly from its current problems. Its projected 2025 population of 6.9 million will elevate it to seventh place, up from 13th in 2005.

4. Raleigh will set the fastest pace of any metropolitan area
The three-county Raleigh metro will virtually double its population during the study period. It had 953,000 residents in 2005, but should be closing in on 1.9 million by 2025.

That’s an increase of 97.7 percent in 20 years, which equals an annual growth rate of 3.5 percent. No other metro will expand as rapidly.

Five other areas are projected to increase their populations by more than 80 percent between 2005 and 2025. They are, in order of growth rate, Provo, Utah; Cape Coral-Fort Myers, Fla.; Ocala, Fla.; Austin; and Port St. Lucie, Fla."

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna31130897

Also considering U.S. metropolitan areas are far less congested and overrun with overpopulation compared to many metropolitan areas in the world, in particular, Asia, Central and South America to which their metropolitan areas hold a stagging up to 30 million and within the 20 million population range and just for one particular city, and where pollution is a huge issue. Yet considering you hate America (the U.S.), either leave or never come to it and enjoy a superior life in one of those superior and crushingly overpopulated metropolitan or downtown areas of the world.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I'd say a major reason people are leaving downtowns is they are social and economic deserts. That is, many have nothing in them that a person really needs to live. There are few or no, drug, grocery, hardware, and the like stores in them. Restaurants often close after 6 or 7pm because they cater to workers rather than the much smaller population living in the downtown area. Parking is usually expensive and scarce.
Then there's crime...

 

[Legion]

Arsecheese is from New York, says it all!

So he says.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

So he says.

Totally gimpish response.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

"Welfare collecting assholes" like to own a house in the suburbs and have an apartment in an expensive city? Really?

Lots of projection in this thread. Is it really a mystery that most of the elderly, incel Euro-American males on JPP are in a retirement facility waiting to die?

 

[cawacko]

Why don' you and these other worthless parasitical trolls leave at being incapable of supporting and co-existing in a civilized society. Consider big facts versus your trolling fiction:

The biggest U.S. metro areas in 2025
Bizjournals is issuing its own population projections for the nation’s 250 largest metropolitan areas, looking as far ahead as 2025.


Projecting population growth is as much an art as a science — and often an inexact art at that. But it still offers an interesting, useful and provocative view of the future.

Bizjournals analyzed recent county-by-county growth patterns within each state, and then used that information to predict metropolitan growth at five-year intervals between 2005 and 2025.

No one can foresee all of the economic twists and demographic turns that the coming two decades will bring, but bizjournals’ projections suggest a range of intriguing possibilities. Here are 10 of particular interest:

1. New York City will retain first place
New York City will retain first place by a comfortable margin.

The nation’s largest metropolitan area is the 23-county New York City region, which spills over into Long Island, New Jersey and Pennsylvania. It had 18.8 million residents in 2005, according to U.S. Census Bureau estimates. No. 2 Los Angeles was far behind at 12.8 million.

Los Angeles is growing more rapidly than New York, but not fast enough to close the gap appreciably. The two giants will still be separated by 5.8 million people in 2025, when New York has 19.8 million residents and Los Angeles has a shade more than 14 million.

2. Houston and Atlanta will climb into the top six
Houston was the nation’s seventh-largest metro in 2005, and Atlanta was No. 9. Both will be moving higher in coming years.

Houston is projected to shoot up to fifth place by 2025, adding almost 2.6 million people to reach a population of nearly 7.9 million. Atlanta is ticketed for sixth place at 7.3 million.

The top four metros, by the way, will maintain precisely the same order over the 20-year period: New York, Los Angeles, Chicago and Dallas-Fort Worth.

3. Detroit will drop out of the top 10, with Phoenix replacing it
Detroit and Phoenix are two of the most economically troubled areas in America today, but their future prospects are considerably different.

Detroit is the only metro expected to slip from the top 10 during the next two decades. It’s projected to fall from 10th place in 2005 to 14th place in 2025, losing 59,500 residents during that span.

Phoenix, on the other hand, is likely to bounce back strongly from its current problems. Its projected 2025 population of 6.9 million will elevate it to seventh place, up from 13th in 2005.

4. Raleigh will set the fastest pace of any metropolitan area
The three-county Raleigh metro will virtually double its population during the study period. It had 953,000 residents in 2005, but should be closing in on 1.9 million by 2025.

That’s an increase of 97.7 percent in 20 years, which equals an annual growth rate of 3.5 percent. No other metro will expand as rapidly.

Five other areas are projected to increase their populations by more than 80 percent between 2005 and 2025. They are, in order of growth rate, Provo, Utah; Cape Coral-Fort Myers, Fla.; Ocala, Fla.; Austin; and Port St. Lucie, Fla."

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna31130897

Also considering U.S. metropolitan areas are far less congested and overrun with overpopulation compared to many metropolitan areas in the world, in particular, Asia, Central and South America to which their metropolitan areas hold a stagging up to 30 million and within the 20 million population range and just for one particular city, and where pollution is a huge issue. Yet considering you hate America (the U.S.), either leave or never come to it and enjoy a superior life in one of those superior and crushingly overpopulated metropolitan or downtown areas of the world.

Interesting perspective that it's considered trolling for The Atlantic and the Bookings Institute to study and report on the current population decline in big cities. And you'll notice it says nothing about people necessarily moving to rural areas. One can leave the City and still stay in the general metro area.

But based on your ideology this is too much for you to handle? And not that this board is a large sample size but it doesn't seem anyone else here raised their kids in a large City. So if you weren't willing to put your kids in urban schools why is surprising others may not want to as well?

 

[Into the Night]

Thread is a misnomer, did NYC lose population, yes, but no where near the numbers the right wing media likes to portray, and, a good deal of those leaving NYC, or most major metro areas, left cause they could work from home and exiled to the suburbs. With a city of eight million plus, a couple of hundred thousand means little

And all the other bullshit regarding crime and such is also generalizations framed to meet the theme they are hoping to sell

You can't just ignore the crime and tyranny in cities like NYC, dude.

 

[Into the Night]

Bullshit also, so if the major metro areas aren't consuming all this suppose supplies from the outside how are those outside areas going to survive not being able to move their product?

The ARE consuming those supplies. Farmers and ranchers don't need cities to move their product.

 

[Into the Night]

their not leaving liar

They are leaving. In some places, you can't find U-Haul trucks to rent because they've all rented on one-way moves OUT of the area, and there are not enough people willing to dead head them back.

 

[Into the Night]

Some are, but for different reasons than the wingers portray, and this grand exodus to Florida because of crime and high taxes is bull shit

Not bullshit. The crime, the taxes, the tyranny, the high rent, and the devastation in NYC is why people are leaving.

Keep in mind a good number of these MAGA militia here

No such thing.

have lived most of their lives in gated villages watching Fox all day,

What villages are these? Are you referring to The Villages? Not gated (other than to keep golf cars IN).

they think any kid walking down their street wearing a hoodie is a dangerous element

Don't see much of that in The Villages.

Anyone wearing a hoodie in Florida is not wearing it because it's cold, dude.

 

[Dachshund]

There’s a fable about a city mouse and a country mouse, they will leave the cities in droves, but many will return. I would not return to a small town unless forced. I do like the suburbs, where I’m close enough to drive into the city.

My girl friend's got a Hoo-Har like a mouse's ear


Dachshund


DLM....Dachshund Lives Matter !

 

[RB 60]

I wish all the city scum would stay in their cities. They are moving here to the rural areas and polluting our landscape.