No JACK! I told you several posts ago that I was only playing lefty devils advocate. Follow along!
Another 'No Knock' killing.
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No JACK! I told you several posts ago that I was only playing lefty devils advocate. Follow along!
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
I am not contesting this particular case, as that all appears to be the case. Jack and Co have largely been making an argument against no-knock warrants as a general principle.
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
Most likely.
A couple of years ago, the Georgia police raided an apartment with a no knock warrant. They decided to throw a flash bang grenade into the apartment with no warning. A flash bang grenade is supposed to disorient people in the room, with basically all the explosive of a normal grenade, but none of the shrapnel. The person they were seeking was not there, and they through the grenade into a toddler's crib. It did serious damage to that toddler.
I can understand that police need to use violent means to apprehend a criminal, but until they are threatened with violence, they should not be allowed to use violence. Clearly, this toddler was not threatening the police. In fact, there was no one in the apartment that threatened the police. For the police to throw a grenade into an apartment where no threat had come from is completely unacceptable.
But it was Georgia, and the toddler was not white... So no crime I guess.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...fter-flash-bang-grenade-hurts-toddler-n479361
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Bottom line is the cops had the wrong guy, as with the Taylor incident.
It's a fatal flaw in the "no-knock" tactic, because if there is a wrong address, name or out dated information anywhere in the chain of creation of the warrant, you may end up with dead innocent citizens ... because the cops are operating on the premise that all is correct in the warrant.
It's a fatal flaw in the "no-knock" tactic, because if there is a wrong address, name or out dated information anywhere in the chain of creation of the warrant, you may end up with dead innocent citizens ... because the cops are operating on the premise that all is correct in the warrant.
The police are also operating under the premise they will be attacked, and are often trying to get their violence in first. Throwing a grenade into an apartment where no one has attacked them, in order to arrest a criminal who has never committed a violent crime is a violent assault. The police do not get to assault a non-resisting suspect, even if he is guilty.
Search or arrest warrants are not punishment. The police are not in charge of punishment. They are supposed to investigate, and use the least amount of force possible to apprehend. If a suspect is not resisting, the arrest should involve no force whatsoever. It is only after the court verdict any punishment comes into play.
"Jack and Co have largely been making an argument against no-knock warrants as a general principle."
That is correct. The REASON for the 'Nixxon No Knock Laws' was to arrest Pot-Smokers before they could flush the evidence down the toilet. Since 'Legal Marijuana' is now in about half the States, the REASON is gone. We can now safely return to the 'A Man's Home is his Castle' Policy.
'Police Reform' is a Pledge by Democrats. REPEAL NO KNOCK LAWS!
'No Knocks' should be illegal. They are probably popular in China and Russia.
Matt Dillon
Retardium User
Seems like the occupants were which is the reason for the warrant. This guy had a gun in his hand even after they announced they were police and told him to get on the ground.
I don't know about low IQ dumbassdes like you, but someone with half a brain would not have a gun in their hands when ordered to the floor.
How fast did all that happen in the middle of the night? The "Best Friends" used to kick doors in yelling "Police", too. Wearing stolen police gear, even.
They weren't. Far from it.
Matt Dillon
Retardium User
That was a damn shame! That kid will be scarred for life.
Pretty sure the officers got fired and the family got a big ol' settlement, but it should not have happened in the 1st place.
Why would the trajectory of a flashbang be up so high anyway?
I know when things went to shit with the police was after Oscar Ray Bolin. He did some fucked up shit so they've been taking it out on everybody ever since.
China would also shoot an unarmed woman coming though a door of a government building
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
"Jack and Co have largely been making an argument against no-knock warrants as a general principle."
That is correct. The REASON for the 'Nixxon No Knock Laws' was to arrest Pot-Smokers before they could flush the evidence down the toilet. Since 'Legal Marijuana' is now in about half the States, the REASON is gone. We can now safely return to the 'A Man's Home is his Castle' Policy.
'Police Reform' is a Pledge by Democrats. REPEAL NO KNOCK LAWS!
Pot is not the only banned substance.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
you would be wrong.
Matt Dillon
Retardium User
That's not good.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
the family did get a settlement, but totaled at 3.6 million, given the med expenses that kid is going to need, isn't that much. one cop faced charges but that was for lying to the DA about the details of the incident. he was acquitted by a jury.
all too often, cops have no accountability at all for mistakes they make. the founders are face palming themselves at us I believe
Matt Dillon
Retardium User
That was an egregious thing. Judges used to take things like that seriously.
Yes. Alcohol was once banned. There are still some Counties in Arkansas were it is still illegal to sell. Good Call, Gin.