3 men guilty of murder in the killing of Ahmaud Arbery

Street Glider said:
This is a just and proper verdict. This was such a disgusting crime.

Anyone wanna' start a pool on what the punishments will be?

I say Travis McMichael gets life in prison without parole...
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I don't have any idea what the sentencing guidelines are. The max should be exceeded.
 
Trumpet said:
You don't sound very pleased with the verdict.
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no, I was commenting on the fallacy of the statement I quoted.

I did not follow this case at all (apart as a current event back when it happened) so I have no opinion one way or the other. As I noted the other day, if the citizen's arrest angle didnt resonate then guilty was a given.

My brother was in the building industry in Atlanta and they have quite a severe problem with people stealing construction materials and general destruction of vacant property there (going so far as to rip out copper pipe from vacant homes for example). So there is a justification for attempting to nab someone you suspect is going to do this. But it seems like this may not have been sufficiently demonstrated or maybe its just a case that there are pretty tightly defined rules for citizen arrest.

But its over and done so maybe Atlanta can get back to work fixing undesirable election outcomes.
 
So three men who killed a man were found guilty, if that is what was proven then good. What was also proven in court, with plenty of evidence was Kyle Rittenhouse engaged in self defense!
 
Even the guy who merely videod the incident is found guilty of murder!!!!! This is clearly another case of media intimidation of a jury. The jurors knew if they said not guilty, they would be doxxed and their homes would burn. Same thing in the derek chauvin trial.
 
Celticguy said:
no, I was commenting on the fallacy of the statement I quoted.

I did not follow this case at all (apart as a current event back when it happened) so I have no opinion one way or the other. As I noted the other day, if the citizen's arrest angle didnt resonate then guilty was a given.

My brother was in the building industry in Atlanta and they have quite a severe problem with people stealing construction materials and general destruction of vacant property there (going so far as to rip out copper pipe from vacant homes for example). So there is a justification for attempting to nab someone you suspect is going to do this. But it seems like this may not have been sufficiently demonstrated or maybe its just a case that there are pretty tightly defined rules for citizen arrest.

But its over and done so maybe Atlanta can get back to work fixing undesirable election outcomes.
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Atlanta might as well be the moon when it comes to Brunswick. It is backwoods and backwards. I know family there is relieved. If they had gotten away with this it would not have sent a good message. It ain’t perfect but in this case the jury system worked.
 
Celticguy said:
yeah didnt get that part. I did get the idea of the 1st charge coming in not guilty and the 2nd (3rd etc) being guilty. have to guess its several different flavors of felony manslaughter. prolly from most sever to least.
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Felony murder is when someone dies in the commission of a felony. There were 4 different felonies and one murder charge associated with each felony.
 
Celticguy said:
yeah didnt get that part. I did get the idea of the 1st charge coming in not guilty and the 2nd (3rd etc) being guilty. have to guess its several different flavors of felony manslaughter. prolly from most sever to least.
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Keep in mind, this is the same region that stopped the vote count over an alleged water break only to resume counting after finding more votes. THe Atlanta area is a very crooked and corrupt town

that being said, I thought all three were guilty, but just the shooter for murder, the other two as accomplices
 
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