Science Is in the Details

AssHatZombie said:
see. You still have no point. you just need to somehow make noise when people talk about the coming theocracy, as per your Masonic marching orders.
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I still think that you are trained to make a mockery of it so that nobody will see any threat. Your presentation lacks in the ability to convince anybody of anything, it is alarmism beyond all level of threat and makes people dismiss any truth you may have to offer.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
no, but we can choose to.....now, pray tell, do you believe that thinking you can only consider human nature in scientific terms makes you better or worse qualified than this candidate.....
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He's the science guy. He should not be bookending science with his insane and unproveable postulations.
 
AssHatZombie said:
He's the science guy. He should not be bookending science with his insane and unproveable postulations.
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What difference does it make to the science?

Basically he says what I said scientists who are believers say all the time. Science answers the question, "How did He do it?"
 
Originally Posted by Watermark
Must we really entrust the future of biomedical research in the United States to a man who sincerely believes that a scientific understanding of human nature is impossible?
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It may well never be possible for us to fully understand human nature thru science.
We humans do have limits you know.
Our limited (ie short) lifespan is one big limiting issue. We seem to just be getting it together when our health goes to crap and we slowly start degenerating and dying.
 
uscitizen said:
Does God (if he/it exists) not exist under laws of science?
Of course laws that we could not even fathom at this point.

would not even heaven and hell exist based on scienctific laws and rules?
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science is the study of the natural universe, why would the supernatural be under the laws that control the natural?.....
 
uscitizen said:
Originally Posted by Watermark
Must we really entrust the future of biomedical research in the United States to a man who sincerely believes that a scientific understanding of human nature is impossible?
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It may well never be possible for us to fully understand human nature thru science.
We humans do have limits you know.
Our limited (ie short) lifespan is one big limiting issue. We seem to just be getting it together when our health goes to crap and we slowly start degenerating and dying.
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Again, where did he suggest that scientific study of human nature would be futile?
 
PostmodernProphet said:
science is the study of the natural universe, why would the supernatural be under the laws that control the natural?.....
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suprenatural are just natural laws we do not yet understand.
Remember it was only a few hundred years ago that we thought illness was caused by evil spirits and or sins aka supernatural.

It is really funny. Every generation thinks they have it all figured out.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
and what insane and unproveable postulations about science are you referring to?.....
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Dr. Collins has written that science makes belief in God “intensely plausible” — the Big Bang, the fine-tuning of nature’s constants, the emergence of complex life, the effectiveness of mathematics, all suggest the existence of a “loving, logical and consistent” God.
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This belief is irrational. The complexity of life nor the big bang "make god intensely plausible." Yet it is a cornerstone of the modern noahide Deist movement.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
so it is your belief that nothing supranatural can exist?.....are we required to choose directors of scientific research that conform to YOUR beliefs only?......
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I stand by my statement. Supernatural exists for those things we are as of now unable to explain scientifically.

What was once supernatural is not necessarially still supernatural.

I do not claim to understand everything. I just accept that I do not understand everything and do not attribute those things to a higher/supreme being. Who just happens to look like us and love us.
 
AssHatZombie said:
This belief is irrational. The complexity of life nor the big bang "make god intensely plausible." Yet it is a cornerstone of the modern noahide Deist movement.
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the fact that a belief is not based on reason doesn't make it "irrational", it makes it "nonrational".....not having been here long enough to be familiar with your rants, I have no idea what "noahide" is, though I notice you tend to mention it daily......

certainly, if one chooses to believe in the possibility of a deity, there is ample evidence in the universe to support that choice.....
 
uscitizen said:
I stand by my statement. Supernatural exists for those things we are as of now unable to explain scientifically.

What was once supernatural is not necessarially still supernatural.

I do not claim to understand everything. I just accept that I do not understand everything and do not attribute those things to a higher/supreme being. Who just happens to look like us and love us.
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just because science has now explained some things previously believed to be supranatural (actually I prefer metaphysical as the correct terminology), does not mean that the supranatural is an impossibility......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
just because science has now explained some things previously believed to be supranatural (actually I prefer metaphysical as the correct terminology), does not mean that the supranatural is an impossibility......
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but in SCIENCE, we only draw conclusions when there is affirmative proof. NOT IMPOSSIBLE does not rise to the level of a legitimate proof for a statement. You can believe that, but it's not a SCIENTIFIC conclusion. SCIENCE.
 
AssHatZombie said:
but in SCIENCE, we only draw conclusions when there is affirmative proof. NOT IMPOSSIBLE does not rise to the level of a legitimate proof for a statement. You can believe that, but it's not a SCIENTIFIC conclusion. SCIENCE.
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????....no one has attempted to say that conclusions regarding the supernatural are science....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
just because science has now explained some things previously believed to be supranatural (actually I prefer metaphysical as the correct terminology), does not mean that the supranatural is an impossibility......
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everything that happens has a reason based in physics/science.

Except for some human behaviour of course ;)
 
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