How to end this birther controvery once and for all

There is no difference.

Yes, there certainly IS a difference.



It was discarded in 2001 when Hawaii switched it's birth certificate system in an effort to reduce costs. They only issue short-forms these days, which contain only the information necessary to determine that a person was born in the US, and they keep the irrelevant information in computer databases....It's in a landfill somewhere. Are you saying that no one in Hawaii is a citizen?

Bullshit. And no, I am saying Obama wasn't born in the US and is unqualified to be president.


That's why I said we need to pass a Constitutional Amendment.


Maybe we will... IF we don't decide to just shoot you in the head first.
 
Here's the best way to resolve the controversy... show us the damn certificate of live birth!

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Seriously is this what republicans are hanging their hats on now? Really? Really??? REALLY????? Good fuckng lord. Idiots. Are you the same retards that want to dismiss the Florida thing in 2000? Fucking retards.
 
anyone out there beside a idiot going to believe a state is going to discard vital records of it's state..
this just all of sudden popped up this week that Hawaii supposedly had his Orginial BC discarded....

I mean really the spin is so deep they will have to start passing out hip boots with them..
 
Maybe so, but only one proves you were legitimately born in a US hospital.

Yeah. One form ONLY proves that you were born in the state in question, which leaves huge holes in Obama's argument that he's a natural born citizen.

Laugh all you want, you despicable piece of subhuman un-American scum.

LOL. I am admittedly un-American, but I disagree with the subhuman description.
 
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Seriously is this what republicans are hanging their hats on now? Really? Really??? REALLY????? Good fuckng lord. Idiots. Are you the same retards that want to dismiss the Florida thing in 2000? Fucking retards.

And yet another pinhead who doesn't give two shits about the rule of law or Constitution, weighs in on the subject. YOU are the retard! YOU are the idiot! Either show us the goddamn certificate of live birth, or admit the mutherfucker wasn't born in this country and is unqualified to be the president! You're not going to get a pass on it, no one is going to stop talking about it, this isn't going to go away, and you can ridicule or obfuscate all you want, it isn't going to change the demands.
 
Yeah. One form ONLY proves that you were born in the state in question, which leaves huge holes in Obama's argument that he's a natural born citizen.

Arnold Swartzeneger is a citizen, that isn't what is in question. To run for (or be) President of the United States, you have to be BORN in the US. Obama hasn't proven he was, and the fact that no certificate of live birth has been presented, is pretty damning evidence he wasn't.

LOL. I am admittedly un-American, but I disagree with the subhuman description.

No, you are subhuman AND un-American, and deserving of a bullet in the head. But I actually have second thoughts about that, and think we need to relegate you to spokesman for the Democrat Party! I want you running your pathetic anti-American mouth every fucking day from now on! I want every American to hear your destructive hate-filled rhetoric on a daily basis, so they have a full and clear understanding of the kind of debris and scum who represent the left in America. Stay healthy pinhead, keep flapping your yap!
 
Arnold Swartzeneger is a citizen, that isn't what is in question. To run for (or be) President of the United States, you have to be BORN in the US. Obama hasn't proven he was, and the fact that no certificate of live birth has been presented, is pretty damning evidence he wasn't.

I said natural born citizen, which is different from a naturalized citizen in superficial respects like place of birth.



No, you are subhuman AND un-American, and deserving of a bullet in the head.

:)

But I actually have second thoughts about that,


Thankyou for your mercy, lord master!

and think we need to relegate you to spokesman for the Democrat Party! I want you running your pathetic anti-American mouth every fucking day from now on! I want every American to hear your destructive hate-filled rhetoric on a daily basis, so they have a full and clear understanding of the kind of debris and scum who represent the left in America. Stay healthy pinhead, keep flapping your yap!

I shall do my damndest! FOR YOU!
 
There is no difference.



It was discarded in 2001 when Hawaii switched it's birth certificate system in an effort to reduce costs. They only issue short-forms these days, which contain only the information necessary to determine that a person was born in the US, and they keep the irrelevant information in computer databases.



It's in a landfill somewhere. Are you saying that no one in Hawaii is a citizen?



You think? Really?



No, not really.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afroyim_v._Rusk

American citizenship is irrevokable. :)




Do it. :)

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.

you've lost an enormous amount of credibility with me WM...you have spread so much false information about this topic i am left to ponder that you likely do the same on other topics
 
you've lost an enormous amount of credibility with me WM...you have spread so much false information about this topic i am left to ponder that you likely do the same on other topics

CNN reporters came to the conclusion that it was thrown away in 2001. Can you prove that I'm telling a lie there?
 
Hitler - Leader of Germany - From Austria
Stalin - Leader of USSR (Russia, basically) - From Georgia
Napolean - Leader of France - From Sicily
Hamilton - De Facto Leader of US - From West Indies (J/K you fucking Jeffersonians!!)


You guys get the picture...

napoleon was from Corsica
 
Sorry, but that is a "certification" not a "certificate" of live birth. What I want to see, is the long form certificate issued by the hospital upon birth. It is done for every baby delivered in the US, and if Obama was born in the US, he should have one. Where is it???

As I said, I think we need to strip you of your right to participate in any more national elections. You are obviously not interested in the rule of law or the Constitution, and your citizenship should be revoked. Keep running your smart ass mouth, and that is what will happen, jackass!

lower left corner "rev date 11/01 (Laser)". is this the original?

/sarcsam
 
CNN reporters came to the conclusion that it was thrown away in 2001. Can you prove that I'm telling a lie there?

i told you the exact same thing yesterday or the day before...and here you are repeating CNN...if you are not lying your level of ignorance on this subject warrants diminish credibility not only for the sake of appalling ignorance but that people tell you the truth and you still repeat false information

do you finally take this claim back?
 
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