Birthers are crazies.

and so it appears that the deflection is in full force....you guys don't even realize that what you're doing by ignoring known facts and continuing to repeat false facts and then making stupid, snide comments only adds fuel to the fire.....
 
and so it appears that the deflection is in full force....you guys don't even realize that what you're doing by ignoring known facts and continuing to repeat false facts and then making stupid, snide comments only adds fuel to the fire.....

Nah; the birthers are truly nutters. Their are groups like them under any Presidency, Dem or GOP: people who just don't like the President.

Like I said, I'd bet everything that very few if any of them have seen anything that could quantify as 'hard evidence.' These are conspiracy nutters.
 
Anything from the actual McCain campaign and not free republic or some astrology site? Seriously?

I know it is popular opinion, but I seriously do not recall the McCain campaign releasing anything, let alone an original document.

i'll guess i will have to do more research for you...but i'm serious...even amongst the most hardened anti birthers i've seen debate this admit he did....

are you claiming this photo is false or doctored?

mccain_certificate_of_birth1.jpg
 
and so it appears that the deflection is in full force....you guys don't even realize that what you're doing by ignoring known facts and continuing to repeat false facts and then making stupid, snide comments only adds fuel to the fire.....


Right, because before the snide remarks I just make it isn't as though a popular right-wing radio host and former Republican administration official was on MSNBC claiming Obama was an illegal alien or anything.
 
i'll guess i will have to do more research for you...but i'm serious...even amongst the most hardened anti birthers i've seen debate this admit he did....

are you claiming this photo is false or doctored?

mccain_certificate_of_birth1.jpg


I'm telling you it is not an original document.
 
and its funny how the left was all over mccain and it was ok....people do it to obama and is racist or looney....

more hypocrisy from many on the left
 
and its funny how the left was all over mccain and it was ok....people do it to obama and is racist or looney....

more hypocrisy from many on the left

Who said it was okay? I never said it was okay.

You, on the other hand, are bending over backwards to give the Obama birthers legitimacy. Did you do the same for the efforts against McCain?
 
Who said it was okay? I never said it was okay.

You, on the other hand, are bending over backwards to give the Obama birthers legitimacy. Did you do the same for the efforts against McCain?

at the time i didn't give one rats turd about either one's issue...when obama's came out i stated flat out that this this whole thing is bullshit and distraction...it was only after he continued hiding stuff vs. mccain producing stuff that i became curious

apparently it peeves you that i correct lefties false statements....too bad...when the lefties came up the false claims i began to wonder why...so i decided to start posting facts....and boy oh boy did the left get pissed at me and all i have ever done is cite facts and HI law....nothing more

absolutely amazing
 
yeah....and you were out there defending mccain?

It's funny; I don't even remember the big to-do about it that you're describing. I don't even remember it period.

I'll tell you what, though. If there was a large group of liberals going after him, the way the birthers are going after Obama, I wouldn't defend them, like you're defending & legitimizing the birthers; I'd be embarassed for them, for undermining the more legit case that people were trying to make against McCain's politics.

I've always been that way. I was embarassed by things like Rathergate & other efforts to tear down those I didn't agree with that didn't focus on the specific policies I disagreed with, and were more interested in just bringing a man down. To me, those efforts belittled & distracted from the real issues, what what should really be debated.

Clearly, your priorities are different, though.
 
It's funny; I don't even remember the big to-do about it that you're describing. I don't even remember it period.

I'll tell you what, though. If there was a large group of liberals going after him, the way the birthers are going after Obama, I wouldn't defend them, like you're defending & legitimizing the birthers; I'd be embarassed for them, for undermining the more legit case that people were trying to make against McCain's politics.

I've always been that way. I was embarassed by things like Rathergate & other efforts to tear down those I didn't agree with that didn't focus on the specific policies I disagreed with, and were more interested in just bringing a man down. To me, those efforts belittled & distracted from the real issues, what what should really be debated.

Clearly, your priorities are different, though.

yeah...pointing out truths and facts....very different from you, got it
 
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