Covid Cases Now 15% Children- Hello, DeSantis and Abbott?

[LV426]

Simply wearing a mask may not be enough to prevent the spread of COVID-19 without social distancing.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/12/201222132057.htm

gotta social distance -that and vaxxing are the only way out - not masks

Last year at this time you were saying social distancing wouldn't work, and that we should all go out and infect ourselves with COVID to achieve herd immunity.

 

[gfm7175]

Wait a second, because last year at this time, you were saying that we could achieve herd immunity without a vaccine.

So is this another Anatta flip-flop?

Last year at this time, the WHO was saying that we could achieve herd immunity without a vaccine. And I quote:

What is herd immunity?

Herd immunity is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. This means that even people who haven’t been infected, or in whom an infection hasn’t triggered an immune response, they are protected because people around them who are immune can act as buffers between them and an infected person. The threshold for establishing herd immunity for COVID-19 is not yet clear.

However, late last year, the WHO changed the definition of 'herd immunity' to this:

What is herd immunity?

‘Herd immunity’, also known as ‘population immunity’, is a concept used for vaccination, in which a population can be protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached.

Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it. Read the Director-General’s 12 October media briefing speech for more detail.

Vaccines train our immune systems to develop antibodies, just as might happen when we are exposed to a disease but – crucially – vaccines work without making us sick. Vaccinated people are protected from getting the disease in question. Visit our webpage on COVID-19 and vaccines for more detail.

As more people in a community get vaccinated, fewer people remain vulnerable, and there is less possibility for passing the pathogen on from person to person. Lowering the possibility for a pathogen to circulate in the community protects those who cannot be vaccinated due to other serious health conditions from the disease targeted by the vaccine. This is called ‘herd immunity’.

‘Herd immunity’ exists when a high percentage of the population is vaccinated, making it difficult for infectious diseases to spread, because there are not many people who can be infected. Read our Q&A on vaccines and immunization for more information.

The percentage of people who need to have antibodies in order to achieve herd immunity against a particular disease varies with each disease. For example, herd immunity against measles requires about 95% of a population to be vaccinated. The remaining 5% will be protected by the fact that measles will not spread among those who are vaccinated. For polio, the threshold is about 80%.

Achieving herd immunity with safe and effective vaccines makes diseases rarer and saves lives.

Notice all of the changes?? The first definition is correct and is what we have known to be true for eons. The second definition is propaganda, bullshit, and lies. Let's dive into it a bit, shall we??

"Herd immunity is a concept used for vaccination..." ---- NO, no it isn't. Herd immunity is about exposure to a disease, whether that be forced exposure via vaccination or natural exposure via one's environment. It is NOT about vaccination. This change in definition is for suiting a political agenda rather than suiting truth.

"Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it." --- This is an outright lie. It is entirely about exposing people to a disease. In fact, vaccinations themselves expose people to a disease (a weakened or inactivated form of it, however). So, this statement by the WHO is an outright lie, plain and simple.

"Vaccinated people are protected from getting the disease in question." --- This is another outright lie. Vaccines quite literally inject the disease in question into the person. This is why some people who get vaccinated end up getting the disease in question shortly after vaccination. A number of vaccinated people can and do end up getting the disease in question anyway. There is no "protection from" disease. The goal of vaccinations is not to protect from disease, but to train one's body to better respond to a particular disease. Yet another outright lie by the WHO...

"Achieving herd immunity with safe and effective vaccines makes diseases rarer and saves lives." --- Here, I want to ignore the outright lie about "making diseases rarer" and I instead want you to make note of the words "safe and effective". These particular words are almost always paired with any mention of 'vaccines'. This (nefarious in this particular case) brainwashing tactic (commonly used in marketing) is called 'subliminal messaging'. It is meant to subconsciously influence your thoughts without you ever consciously realizing that you are being influenced.


Wake up to the COVID fear mongering propaganda and demand that your government stop treating you like shit and attacking your freedoms.

 

[Darth Omar]

Hello Darth,



I am not going to answer your question. Here is why I am blowing it off:

That is not the only concern. That is shortsided thinking.

For a national COVID response policy to be effective, it must be a unified response shared by the same society it is meant to protect.

Leaving the choice of whether or not to participate in the response up to individuals, does not result in a unified response.

LOGICALLY:

1. A unified response is best for a common threat.

2. The more people who participate in the response, the more effective it can be.

3. If nobody participates, the response will have no effect at all.

4. The more people who do participate, the more effective the response will be.

You’re not answering the question because you can’t lol.

Scientifically and medically, there’s no justification for vaccinating healthy kids against a disease that presents practically no threat to them. Very close to a literal zero threat.

 

[LV426]

Last year at this time, the WHO was saying that we could achieve herd immunity without a vaccine. And I quote:

What is herd immunity?

Herd immunity is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection. This means that even people who haven’t been infected, or in whom an infection hasn’t triggered an immune response, they are protected because people around them who are immune can act as buffers between them and an infected person. The threshold for establishing herd immunity for COVID-19 is not yet clear.

However, late last year, the WHO changed the definition of 'herd immunity' to this:

What is herd immunity?

‘Herd immunity’, also known as ‘population immunity’, is a concept used for vaccination, in which a population can be protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached.

Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it. Read the Director-General’s 12 October media briefing speech for more detail.

Vaccines train our immune systems to develop antibodies, just as might happen when we are exposed to a disease but – crucially – vaccines work without making us sick. Vaccinated people are protected from getting the disease in question. Visit our webpage on COVID-19 and vaccines for more detail.

As more people in a community get vaccinated, fewer people remain vulnerable, and there is less possibility for passing the pathogen on from person to person. Lowering the possibility for a pathogen to circulate in the community protects those who cannot be vaccinated due to other serious health conditions from the disease targeted by the vaccine. This is called ‘herd immunity’.

‘Herd immunity’ exists when a high percentage of the population is vaccinated, making it difficult for infectious diseases to spread, because there are not many people who can be infected. Read our Q&A on vaccines and immunization for more information.

The percentage of people who need to have antibodies in order to achieve herd immunity against a particular disease varies with each disease. For example, herd immunity against measles requires about 95% of a population to be vaccinated. The remaining 5% will be protected by the fact that measles will not spread among those who are vaccinated. For polio, the threshold is about 80%.

Achieving herd immunity with safe and effective vaccines makes diseases rarer and saves lives.

Notice all of the changes?? The first definition is correct and is what we have known to be true for eons. The second definition is propaganda, bullshit, and lies. Let's dive into it a bit, shall we??

"Herd immunity is a concept used for vaccination..." ---- NO, no it isn't. Herd immunity is about exposure to a disease, whether that be forced exposure via vaccination or natural exposure via one's environment. It is NOT about vaccination. This change in definition is for suiting a political agenda rather than suiting truth.

"Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it." --- This is an outright lie. It is entirely about exposing people to a disease. In fact, vaccinations themselves expose people to a disease (a weakened or inactivated form of it, however). So, this statement by the WHO is an outright lie, plain and simple.

"Vaccinated people are protected from getting the disease in question." --- This is another outright lie. Vaccines quite literally inject the disease in question into the person. This is why some people who get vaccinated end up getting the disease in question shortly after vaccination. A number of vaccinated people can and do end up getting the disease in question anyway. There is no "protection from" disease. The goal of vaccinations is not to protect from disease, but to train one's body to better respond to a particular disease. Yet another outright lie by the WHO...

"Achieving herd immunity with safe and effective vaccines makes diseases rarer and saves lives." --- Here, I want to ignore the outright lie about "making diseases rarer" and I instead want you to make note of the words "safe and effective". These particular words are almost always paired with any mention of 'vaccines'. This (nefarious in this particular case) brainwashing tactic (commonly used in marketing) is called 'subliminal messaging'. It is meant to subconsciously influence your thoughts without you ever consciously realizing that you are being influenced.


Wake up to the COVID fear mongering propaganda and demand that your government stop treating you like shit and attacking your freedoms.

Absolutely nothing you quoted there showed that the WHO was pushing herd immunity.

By merely describing herd immunity, they are not endorsing it.

 

[gfm7175]

do you even understand acquired immunity?

No, he doesn't. He denies it because the WHO now denies it.

 

[Darth Omar]

Florida has a good economy because we didnt wreck it with prolonged useless lockdowns
Then we kept the kids in school all last fall, and Desantis protected the nursing homes.

So people want to come here, put kids in schools and work/start business
~~

Yes the "wild card" is Biden's super-spreader since he was elected -he's as bad or worse then Cuomo ever waS
Im sure they are dumping them here -with their high incidence of COVID and non-testing for communicable diseases. at least 30% refuse vaxxes, and lamda is going to be next because of it

They just ignore it because it doesn’t fit their political narrative.

 

[LV426]

Last year at this time, the WHO was saying that we could achieve herd immunity without a vaccine.

Nothing you quoted shows the WHO was saying we could achieve herd immunity without a vaccine.

They were just describing what "herd immunity" is.

But there was NOTHING in what you quoted where the WHO was endorsing it.

Sloppy work.

 

[LV426]

Scientifically and medically, there’s no justification for vaccinating healthy kids against a disease that presents practically no threat to them. Very close to a literal zero threat.

15,000 kids have been in the ICU the last week with COVID.

 

[LV426]

Scientifically and medically, there’s no justification for vaccinating healthy kids against a disease that presents practically no threat to them. Very close to a literal zero threat.

I fully endorse you spreading this disinformation because the only people who will listen to you are the people whose kids we don't want growing up anyway.

 

[gfm7175]

Absolutely nothing you quoted there showed that the WHO was pushing herd immunity.

By merely describing herd immunity, they are not endorsing it.

Everything I said completely went over your head again, didn't it?

Herd immunity doesn't get "pushed". It just is. It happens naturally.

Don't you question the fact that the WHO now defines 'herd immunity' in a completely different manner than it did before?

 

[LV426]

They just ignore it because it doesn’t fit their political narrative.

That's precisely what Abbott and DeSantis are doing; ignoring the virus in the hopes it'll just go away.

It's not going to...it's only going to get worse.

 

[Sailor]

Recent reports show that children are accounting for 15 percent of COVID-19 cases in the U.S. as the delta variant causes an uptick in cases around the country.

According to new data collected by the American Academy of Pediatrics, almost 94,000 COVID-19 cases in children were reported over a two-week period from July 29 to Aug. 5, which the academy dubbed "a continuing substantial increase."

Since the pandemic began, nearly 4.3 million children have tested positive for the virus — 14.3 percent of total cumulative cases.

The new figures come as children's hospitals in COVID-19 hot spots have reported an increase in young patients battling the virus.

Arkansas Children’s Hospital in Little Rock reported that of 23 patients admitted for COVID-19 under the age 18, 10 were in the ICU and five were placed on ventilators.

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/5...cent-of-us-coronavirus-cases-are-now-children

Just another Biden failure.

 

[LV426]

Everything I said completely went over your head again, didn't it?

It went over your head.

Describing herd immunity is not an endorsement of it.

Unless, you'd like to show where in what you quoted the WHO was arguing FOR herd immunity?

 

[gfm7175]

They keep saying "droplets" - but virus can attach to even humidity ( which are also water vapor droplets)
in essence virus can just ride airborn - it doesnt need "biological material)

and the bad part about masks, is people touch the masks then touch their face
Kids are even worse

Yeah, you don't want to know all of the shit that gets on masks when they get thrown around and touched and everything (and then later put over a person's mouth for all of that shit to get breathed in). It's downright nasty.

 

[LV426]

Herd immunity doesn't get "pushed". It just is. It happens naturally.

So now you're backtracking because you said that the WHO said we would achieve herd immunity because Anatta also said it.

But the WHO didn't endorse herd immunity at all.

So you failed.

Again.

 

[gfm7175]

Nothing you quoted shows the WHO was saying we could achieve herd immunity without a vaccine.

They were just describing what "herd immunity" is.

But there was NOTHING in what you quoted where the WHO was endorsing it.

Sloppy work.

I fucking underlined it you fucking moron... go back and read...

 

[LV426]

Don't you question the fact that the WHO now defines 'herd immunity' in a completely different manner than it did before?

No one cares.

And it wasn't the WHO who said we should all infect ourselves with COVID to achieve herd immunity, it was anatta who said that.

 

[gfm7175]

It went over your head.

Describing herd immunity is not an endorsement of it.

Unless, you'd like to show where in what you quoted the WHO was arguing FOR herd immunity?

I fucking underlined it you fucking moron. Grow a fucking brain and learn how to use it.

 

[LV426]

I fucking underlined it you fucking moron... go back and read...

You fucking idiot...

The WHO was talking generally about the concept of "herd immunity", but they said in what you quoted that for COVID-19, you need to click further.

What is herd immunity? <- SEE, IDIOT, THIS IS SETTING UP A DEFINITION.

‘Herd immunity’, also known as ‘population immunity’, is a concept used for vaccination, in which a population can be protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached.

Herd immunity is achieved by protecting people from a virus, not by exposing them to it. Read the Director-General’s 12 October media briefing speech for more detail.

Vaccines train our immune systems to develop antibodies, just as might happen when we are exposed to a disease but – crucially – vaccines work without making us sick. Vaccinated people are protected from getting the disease in question. Visit our webpage on COVID-19 and vaccines for more detail.

As more people in a community get vaccinated, fewer people remain vulnerable, and there is less possibility for passing the pathogen on from person to person. Lowering the possibility for a pathogen to circulate in the community protects those who cannot be vaccinated due to other serious health conditions from the disease targeted by the vaccine. This is called ‘herd immunity’.

‘Herd immunity’ exists when a high percentage of the population is vaccinated, making it difficult for infectious diseases to spread, because there are not many people who can be infected. Read our Q&A on vaccines and immunization for more information.

The percentage of people who need to have antibodies in order to achieve herd immunity against a particular disease varies with each disease. For example, herd immunity against measles requires about 95% of a population to be vaccinated. The remaining 5% will be protected by the fact that measles will not spread among those who are vaccinated. For polio, the threshold is about 80%.

Achieving herd immunity with safe and effective vaccines makes diseases rarer and saves lives.

Anatta was saying we could achieve herd immunity WITHOUT vaccines last year.

The WHO never said that.

And you clearly didn't read what you stole carefully...and the reason is because you're sloppy.

 

[gfm7175]

So now you're backtracking

Nope.

because you said that the WHO said we would achieve herd immunity because Anatta also said it.

Read what I fucking said, you fucking moron.

But the WHO didn't endorse herd immunity at all.

They defined it, moron. I provided THEIR definition of it, moron. Learn how to fucking read and comprehend posts.

So you failed.

You did.

Again.

Again. Learn English. You've spoken Liberal for far too long, moron.