Covid mortality rate in children

Darth Omar said:
It did, and he did, which was all the better reason to keep it up, huh?

Btw, a positive test is just that—a positive test. It may or may not be an infection and in fact, the NYT reported almost exactly a year ago that a *ridiculously* high percentage of PCR tests were false positive. Not Fox, the NYT. How much business was disrupted and how much work was needlessly missed over false PCR tests?

Do you have a figure?

There was always [and still is] an argument to watch the hospitals instead of obsessing over case numbers *that are known* to be sketchy. But Trump was never allowed to be right, ever, and yeah.
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Never allowed to be right? His vanity got in the way of more testing, which is a common sense measure during a pandemic.

My lord.
 
BartenderElite said:
Never allowed to be right? His vanity got in the way of more testing, which is a common sense measure during a pandemic.

My lord.
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The ‘common sense’ would be more sensible if an increase in cases ALWAYS correlated with an increase in hospitalizations and mortality. Failing that, if they tracked together at least 50% of the time. How many case-edemics failed to pan out in terms of hospitalizations and mortality?

Do you have a figure?
 
Darth Omar said:
The ‘common sense’ would be more sensible if an increase in cases ALWAYS correlated with an increase in hospitalizations and mortality. Failing that, if they tracked together at least 50% of the time. How many case-edemics failed to pan out in terms of hospitalizations and mortality?

Do you have a figure?
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Nope. But it's fun to watch the gymnastics.
 
You moved the goalposts.

I don't pretend to have every fact & figure at the top of my head (pretend being the key word).

But testing being a no brainer in a pandemic is fact. And Trump wanting to avoid it for vanity - as opposed to any sort of logical reason - is also fact.

It's a silly "debate" we're having. Trump has admitted all of this.
 
BartenderElite said:
Nope. What it's called is factual.

I'm talking about law. You're not.

Simple.
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Since you won’t play I will.

Citing Roe as a precedent, the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a ‘right to privacy’ that protects an individual’s right to choose whether or not to subject their bodies to an experimental treatment that may cause them undo harm.

Next.
 
Darth Omar said:
Since you won’t play I will.

Citing Roe as a precedent, the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a ‘right to privacy’ that protects an individual’s right to choose whether or not to subject their bodies to an experimental treatment that may cause them undo harm.

Next.
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Whose right to choose is being taken away?

I think you missed something. No one is mandating vaccines.
 
BartenderElite said:
You moved the goalposts.

I don't pretend to have every fact & figure at the top of my head (pretend being the key word).

But testing being a no brainer in a pandemic is fact. And Trump wanting to avoid it for vanity - as opposed to any sort of logical reason - is also fact.

It's a silly "debate" we're having. Trump has admitted all of this.
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Trump.

The goalpost is the value of rampant testing. Unless an increase in case numbers *consistently* predicts an corresponding increase in hospitalizations and mortality, it seems to be a tad over rated and you’ve offered nothing but mantras about ‘testing in a pandemic’.

Why don’t they just watch hospitalizations and if they see a bump, act accordingly?
 
Darth Omar said:
Trump.

The goalpost is the value of rampant testing. Unless an increase in case numbers *consistently* predicts an corresponding increase in hospitalizations and mortality, it seems to be a tad over rated and you’ve offered nothing but mantras about ‘testing in a pandemic’.

Why don’t they just watch hospitalizations and if they see a bump, act accordingly?
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Weren't we discussing Trump?

We should have had a full court on testing and tracing - but we didn't, because of vanity. You & I fundamentally disagree about society's ability to limit a virus, so we're not really going to get anywhere with this.

The only thing that's indisputable is that Trump didn't have a scientific reason - he just thought it would look bad.
 
BartenderElite said:
Weren't we discussing Trump?

We should have had a full court on testing and tracing - but we didn't, because of vanity. You & I fundamentally disagree about society's ability to limit a virus, so we're not really going to get anywhere with this.

The only thing that's indisputable is that Trump didn't have a scientific reason - he just thought it would look bad.
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I give you reasons and you ignore them. And yes, no point in kicking the dead horse.
 
Darth Omar said:
Children are at extremely slim risk of dying from Covid-19, according to some of the most comprehensive studies to date, which indicate the threat might be even lower than previously thought.

Some 99.995% of the 469,982 children in England who were infected during the year examined by researchers survived, one study found.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-chi...in-extremely-low-new-studies-find-11625785260
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That translates into a 0.005% risk of death for kids infected with the Chinese Communist Party virus. Keep in mind those deaths occurred predominantly [if not exclusively] in kids with serious pre existing conditions. Consequently, the actual risk of death for healthy kids is so close to zero it’s difficult to measure.

What does a parent or pediatrician do in the face of that sort of risk? NOTHING. You can ignore it and worry about something else.

And *under absolutely no circumstances* do you inject them with an experimental treatment to ‘protect them’ from something that almost certainly isn’t going to kill them.

It’s insane.
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Covid 19 is not even the worst threat since the Delta mutation has surfaced and become the number one threat now around the world and most certainly in America.

The best way to protect yourself from the Delta variant? Get vaccinated.

But that's not an option for the roughly 48 million children under 12 in the US. So for the time being, children are at high risk of acquiring a Delta infection.

The fact that we're seeing outbreaks in certain parts of the country specifically in children is because, at this moment, those are the most vulnerable hosts because they're not vaccinated.

The Delta coronavirus variant is the most transmissible to date. An analysis from Public Health England found that it was associated with a 60% increased risk of household transmission compared with the Alpha variant, which was discovered in the UK. The Alpha variant is already about 50% more transmissible than the original strain, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

That means the variant can more easily spread among kids, too. Indeed, several countries have recently recorded a higher share of coronavirus cases among children.

In Israel, half of the 125 new infections reported on Monday were among children, according to the country's health ministry. About 70% of Monday's new infections, the ministry added, were caused by the Delta variant.

Researchers in Scotland also found that Delta cases were present mostly in younger age groups. In the UK overall, a study still awaiting peer review found that coronavirus infections were now five times more prevalent among children ages 5 to 12 and young adults 18 to 24 than among people older than 65. (The Delta variant now accounts for up to 99% of the UK's coronavirus cases, according to Public Health England.) Most young adults who recently got infected were unvaccinated, according to that study.

In the US, meanwhile, kids represented nearly 25% of new weekly cases for the week ending June 17, despite them making up about 22% of the population. That's higher than the overall share since the start of the pandemic: 14%.

Medical Researchers are still testing the vaccines in younger children, and hopefully this will be available soon to mitigate all the Covid strains in people of all ages.
 
Hoosier Daddy said:
fuck you and that communist chinese virus shit, boy. what a stupid fuck clown you are. we have 600,000 dead americans and 25 million infected due to science denying pigs like you and trump, and you are doing cartwheels because very few young children have died. what a piece of shit you are.
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wy do you science denying pigs deny the virus came from China?.....
 
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