Terrible news for the Creation Science museum (and Republicans)

[Into the Night]

So, to recap: all scientific claims carry equal weight.

Therefore, the degree of confidence in Boyles law is equal to the degree of confidence in the claim that man is descended from a less evolved ancestor.

True or false?

False. The Theory of Evolution is not a theory of science.

 

[Into the Night]

Meanwhile, back to science.

You deny science.

My specialty is applied psychology.

Psychoquackery. Not science either.

In multiple experiments so far, my cat, while resting comfortably in my chair, will vacate said chair to his scratch pole 100% of the time after whiffing two crushed Catnip leaves under his nose then rubbing the Catnip on the rope bindings of his scratch pole. Once vacated, the cat showed no interest in returning to my seat. Further research is needed on this subject.

I'll repeat the experiment at the cat's convenience.

So your cat is hooked on catnip. What else is new?

 

[AProudLefty]

There's no time in the equation?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You deny science.

Psychoquackery. Not science either.

So your cat is hooked on catnip. What else is new?

More proof you're an idiot, the perfect member for Qless.

 

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No one to my knowledge said that, and it is bad form to put words in people's mouths.

Such as you do?

String theory is not as secure as the theory of evolution by natural selection.

There is no such thing as 'security' in a theory.

I do not think string theory should even really qualify as a theory.

It is a theory. Like the theory of evolution, is it not science.

The theory of the big bang is not as secure as the theory of evolution by natural selection.

There is no such thing as 'security' in a theory.

We do not really have the physics to understand the big bang at the level we do understand natural selection.

Natural selection builds a paradox. You are simply discussing various religions. No science here, anywhere.

 

[Into the Night]

There is no tap dancing. If you have a conflicting evidence, present it.

Science does not use supporting evidence. All theories of science must be falsifiable. The theory of evolution is not a theory of science.

 

[Into the Night]

Absence of evidence? WTF is that Christian fool talking about. Sure can't be evolution of man.

Science does not use supporting evidence. Only religions do that. The Theory of Evolution is not a theory of science.

 

[Into the Night]

There is no "either/or proposition" in science. You have hypotheses and evidence. That's it.

Nonsense statement. Science isn't a decision. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. Hypothesis come out of theories, not theories out of hypothesis.

 

[Into the Night]

You do realize you are speaking to a purported heath care professional who refuses to mask or vaccinate because he thinks they don't work, right?

So I assume you wear and mask AND you have been vaccinated.

So since you are wearing a mask, you figure the vaccination doesn't work?
Since you want someone else to also wear a mask, you figure your own mask doesn't work?

You are locked in paradoxes dude.

 

[AProudLefty]

Nonsense statement. Science isn't a decision. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. Hypothesis come out of theories, not theories out of hypothesis.

Thank you for the additional to my sig.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Nonsense statement. Science isn't a decision. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. Hypothesis come out of theories, not theories out of hypothesis.

 

[Into the Night]

Here are two famous examples:

In physics, aether theories (also known as ether theories) propose the existence of a medium, a space-filling substance or field as a transmission medium for the propagation of electromagnetic or gravitational forces

The speed of light is constant

Guess which one got destroyed?

Both.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

So I assume you wear and mask AND you have been vaccinated.

So since you are wearing a mask, you figure the vaccination doesn't work?
Since you want someone else to also wear a mask, you figure your own mask doesn't work?

You are locked in paradoxes dude.

You're a wackadoodle, dude. The COVID vaccine protects against COVID, not the flu or whatever nasty bugs you are spreading.

 

[Into the Night]

Well a of course. But how the fuck, or why the fuck does EMR behave as a wave (in addition to particle) if there is no medium?
Last I checked surfers need water.

See Maxwell's theories. He discusses this.

 

[BidenPresident]

Science does not use supporting evidence. All theories of science must be falsifiable. The theory of evolution is not a theory of science.

you're an idiot

 

[Into the Night]

No one who looks at the fossil record, and the four million year progression of hominids from Austapithicus to anatomically modern humans has the slightest problem understanding homo sapien sapiens evolved from earlier forms of hominids.

You don't get to speak for everyone. You are not God.

There is no genealogical information in fossils.

Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).

 

[Into the Night]

Acknowledging scientific uncertainty and asking well framed questions is being a skeptic.

Denying evidence right in front of one's face is being a denier.

Science does not use supporting evidence. Only religions do that.

I have no idea what the precise relationship is between. Austapithicus, Homo habilis, Homo erectus, Homo sapiens meanderthalis, and Homo sapien sapiens is.

Understandable. It is unknown.

It is an are of active research, and the odds are there was no one simple stepwise evolutionary genealogy, but a mosaic of inbreeding and cross pollination between archaic human subspecies or variants.

So your religion is still trying to define relationships here?

But there is not a single reasonable person who could look at the four million year record of archaic human variants leading up to anatomically modern humans, and not be able to recognize evolutionary progression is in play.

You do not get to speak for everyone. You are not God.

Omniscience fallacy. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).

 

[Into the Night]

Move over, DNA: ancient proteins are starting to reveal humanity’s history

Proteins dating back more than one million years have been extracted from some fossils, and could help to answer some difficult questions about archaic humans.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01986-x

A religious 'answer' maybe.

 

[Into the Night]

All areas of science include subjectivity, opinion, and speculation.

NONE of them. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. There is subjectivity, there is no opinion, there is no voting bloc, there is no speculation. Science is not a casino.

Repeatability and self-correction are generally what set science apart from other intellectual endeavors.

No. Falsifiability is what sets science theories apart from any other theory.

Fossils are hard, tangible data.

WRONG. Fossils are image of animals and plants in stone.

They can be directly observed, measured, compared, tested.

For what? Size? Weight? Meh.

The higgs boson, quarks, and quantum entanglement cannot be observed or even directly detected. No one one has ever seen them. We can only infer their existence by indirect detection and higher mathematics.

Since you deny mathematics, algebra is higher mathematics for you.

I am pretty sure anatomically modern homo sapiens did not overlap in time with homo erectus.

Speculation.

To the extent we have homo erectus DNA, it was not by direct procreation, but passed down a genetic pathway through intermediate variants of archaic humans.

Speculation.

I do not see how a reasonable person, using their mental faculties of induction and inference, could possibly look at the four million year record of a progression from archaic human variants up to anatomically modern homo sapiens and still declare that biological evolution is in grave doubt.

You don't get to speak for everyone. You are not God. You only get to speak for you.

Omnisicience fallacy. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).

 

[Into the Night]

Theists are fighting a losing battle trying to fit God in the gaps of various and sundry scientific theories.

No theory is a gap. Science does not have any theories about God. They are not falsifiable.

Those gaps are always closing.

Void argument fallacy.

A better question theists could pose, is where did the universe's laws of physics come from?

Us.

Why does order rather than chaos underlie them?

Because we design them that way.

And why is there something rather than nothing?

So a moron like can ask.

Those are genuine metaphysical questions, and if I were looking for providential design those are the questions I would ask.

Enjoy.