UFO's.....old hat, new interests.

Cypress said:
The interesting scientific question here is how space aliens would have managed to circumvent special relativity and travel faster than the speed of light. It defies all the known physics we have ever observed.
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They are supposed to be centuries and even millenniums older than our civilization. Their technology would be magical to us. The speed of light makes interstellar travel impossible. They would have to find a way around it.
 
Nordberg said:
They are supposed to be centuries and even millenniums older than our civilization. Their technology would be magical to us. The speed of light makes interstellar travel impossible. They would have to find a way around it.
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It is just odd that space aliens would have figured out how to travel vast intragalatic distances at greater than the speed of light (C), not to mention how they would cope with the resultant infinite time dilation.

Nothing we have observed in the universe has exceeded C; not photons, not neutrinos, not gravity waves, not leptons, muons, or hadrons, not any form of EM radiation..
 
Gin Saké said:
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Hey genius....still lurking about? Find that peer reviewed medical paper proving what you post here? No? Then why are you still braying like an ass for over 20 years on 3 different discussion sites? You following me? You lonely? Maybe you should see someone about this obsession of yours. I mean, if you can't deal with a post regarding UFO's, what can you deal with? Carry on.
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You're the one who needs to post a peer reviewed paper. This has been settled science for over 35 years.
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Without the documented procedure, methodology, and conclusion....the due diligence that has guided medical science for over a century...Yep, just for dopes like you to hear what you want, lets make that exception and throw out every precedent in medical science, make millionaires and pseudo-icons out of bureaucrats like Fauci and give Pharma companies serious black line stock for the last 30 some odd years. And then ignore folk like Mullis & Deussberg.

Only a complete ass would say something as dumb as no need for a conclusive peer reviewed white paper proving a medical causality and treatement.
over 20 years, genius....you're still a willfully ignorant troll. Catch you in your next incarnation.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
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You need to get off those right wingnut web sites, Dutch....they're affecting your mind, as I refered stated facts concerning statements by US Presidents. Can you logically prove otherwise, or just blow more smoke like a good little arrogant asshole to cowardly do admit error?
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Why? They're more entertaining than you. Unlike you and your wacky ideas, I don't believe any of that bullshit. Life, and sane people, are much, much more boring than the crazy stories crazy people tell on the Internet.

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Why? Because only an ignorant troll just keeps blathering his opinion as if its fact, regardless of concrete evidence to the contrary and avoid/dodge true debate beyond a point. No one gives a damn what you believe because all one has to do is just read what you deny, lie and BS about to see your folly. Once jokers like you deteriorate to this dumb parrot mode (with apologies to real parrots) I don't waste further time and space. See you in a month or so.
 
Primavera said:
Bring me up to speed, must have missed this!
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I don't recall all of the juice details. The gist is that Taicheeze denies the link between HIV and AIDS, claiming that he has seen the data on it. Given some of the less stupid beliefs that people have held, I'm surprised it never drew more ridicule.
 
Cypress said:
I knew that alien autopsy video was horseshit from the nanosecond I heard about it.

I really wanted that Sasquatch film footage to be for real, but part of me always sort of knew it was a guy in a gorilla suit.

I am always in favor of the scholarly investigation of any phenomena should there be credible reasons to do so. But I would hope after 70 years of a UFO craze in the United States there would be more tangible evidence if these really were interstellar starships.
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there is, you just have to do the research. See, it's not going to be laid out in a TV doc (commercial or cable or net) that's given the same promos as the "Friends" reunion. And any ex-member of official gov't organizations that go off the reservation are dismissed because their former employers won't say, "okay, you got us. Here's the real story".

If you have a gov't institution that has lied for over several decades about political assasinations, why in the world would you think they wouldn't lie/deny/obfuscate regarding UFO's.

And the band played on.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Without the documented procedure, methodology, and conclusion....the due diligence that has guided medical science for over a century...Yep, just for dopes like you to hear what you want, lets make that exception and throw out every precedent in medical science, make millionaires and pseudo-icons out of bureaucrats like Fauci and give Pharma companies serious black line stock for the last 30 some odd years. And then ignore folk like Mullis & Deussberg.

Only a complete ass would say something as dumb as no need for a conclusive peer reviewed white paper proving a medical causality and treatement.
over 20 years, genius....you're still a willfully ignorant troll. Catch you in your next incarnation.
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It's your job to prove the medical community wrong on the matter. The fact that they aren't entertaining your beliefs is not a sufficient argument. People who disagree with Dr Faucist are producing arguments that make their cases.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Why? Because only an ignorant troll just keeps blathering his opinion as if its fact, regardless of concrete evidence to the contrary and avoid/dodge true debate beyond a point. No one gives a damn what you believe because all one has to do is just read what you deny, lie and BS about to see your folly. Once jokers like you deteriorate to this dumb parrot mode (with apologies to real parrots) I don't waste further time and space. See you in a month or so.
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Why are your opinions more factual than mine? In fact, you're one advocating something that a government conspiracy to hide space aliens. I'm just asking for evidence.

What you've offered isn't evidence of alien visitation. It's anecdote and speculation.

You care about what I believe and that's enough. :)
 
The difference is the government is saying UFOs exist. They are the same people that denied it for 70 years. That is a substantive difference.
 
Nordberg said:
The difference is the government is saying UFOs exist. They are the same people that denied it for 70 years. That is a substantive difference.
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Let's be clear on what the Pentagon actually said.
They did not claim that UFOs are intergalactic spaceships piloted by alien beings.

They propose to examine reports that unidentified aircraft are potentially penetrating US airspace.

Establishment of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force

AUG. 14, 2020

On Aug. 4, 2020, Deputy Secretary of Defense David L. Norquist approved the establishment of an Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) Task Force (UAPTF). The Department of the Navy, under the cognizance of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security, will lead the UAPTF.

The Department of Defense established the UAPTF to improve its understanding of, and gain insight into, the nature and origins of UAPs. The mission of the task force is to detect, analyze and catalog UAPs that could potentially pose a threat to U.S. national security.

As DOD has stated previously, the safety of our personnel and the security of our operations are of paramount concern. The Department of Defense and the military departments take any incursions by unauthorized aircraft into our training ranges or designated airspace very seriously and examine each report. This includes examinations of incursions that are initially reported as UAP when the observer cannot immediately identify what he or she is observing.


https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Re...-of-unidentified-aerial-phenomena-task-force/
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Nordberg said:
The difference is the government is saying UFOs exist. They are the same people that denied it for 70 years. That is a substantive difference.
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Ummm....no, they aren't saying space aliens exist. They're just claiming they don't know the Unidentified Flying Object.

Soooo...the fact they denied it means they're lying? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 
Cypress said:
Let's be clear on what the Pentagon actually said.
They did not claim that UFOs are intergalactic spaceships piloted by alien beings.

They propose to examine reports that unidentified aircraft are potentially penetrating US airspace.
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True....they NEVER admit anything....this is just a rehash of Project Blue Book to soothe the masses that the military is on the case! :rolleyes: You can go back to sleep now, all is well.
 
Taichiliberal said:
True....they NEVER admit anything....this is just a rehash of Project Blue Book to soothe the masses that the military is on the case! :rolleyes: You can go back to sleep now, all is well.
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It seems perfectly reasonable to me that they would investgate these reports before leaping to any conclusions.

If these unexplained phenomena are as widespread as the UFO community says, I am sure the authorities in Britain. France, Japan, China, Russia have investigated these incidents -- and it seems difficult to believe a vast worldwide conspiracy to cover up the truth about intergalactic spaceships could be maintained for 70 years.
 
Nordberg said:
The difference is the government is saying UFOs exist. They are the same people that denied it for 70 years. That is a substantive difference.
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You are so fucking stupid. Do you REALLY need me to explain this to you? Do you understand that the Govt admitting UFO's exist means almost nothing ? All they did was admit that there have been sightings of as of yet UNIDENTIFIED flying objects. That doesnt mean shit. Wake me up when they come right out and admit the existence of aliens from another world traveling to Earth. Dummy.
 
Cypress said:
It seems perfectly reasonable to me that they would investgate these reports before leaping to any conclusions.

If these unexplained phenomena are as widespread as the UFO community says, I am sure the authorities in Britain. France, Japan, China, Russia have investigated these incidents -- and it seems difficult to believe a vast worldwide conspiracy to cover up the truth about intergalactic spaceships could be maintained for 70 years.
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That's just the thing, CY....after a point, cognitive reasoning, critical thinking and scientific process goes right out the window. The "official" reports just ignore what they don't like or make summations that include this bias. As to your last paragraph....the countries you just mention all have sought or have acquired nuclear weapons and use nuke power plants....knowing damn well you don't dare use the former and you can't bury the latter for long....much less know how to fully close it down passed it's warrantee. So yeah, mindsets like that would have NO problem joining the party line....until it's up to their necks, like Belgium. And even THEN they hedge their bets in concluding non-terrestrial origin of the crafts, much less who is piloting them.
 
Gin Saké said:
I don't recall all of the juice details. The gist is that Taicheeze denies the link between HIV and AIDS, claiming that he has seen the data on it. Given some of the less stupid beliefs that people have held, I'm surprised it never drew more ridicule.
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But...but...what about the chronology of the posts?
 
Primavera said:
In late December 1980, there was a series of unexplained lights near Rendlesham Forest, Suffolk, England which have become linked with claims of UFO landings. The events occurred just outside RAF Woodbridge, which was used at the time by the United States Air Force.

In December 2018, David Clarke, a British UFO researcher, reported a claim that the incident was a set-up by the SAS as a revenge plot on the USAF.
According to this story, in August 1980, the SAS parachuted into RAF Woodbridge to test the security at the nuclear site. The USAF had recently upgraded their radar and detected the black parachutes of the SAS men as they descended to the base. The SAS troops were interrogated and beaten up, with the ultimate insult that they were called "unidentified aliens".

To enact their revenge, the SAS "gave" the USAF their own version of an alien event; "....as December approached, lights and coloured flares were rigged in the woods. Black helium balloons were also coupled to remote-controlled kites to carry suspended materials into the sky, activated by radio-controls."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident
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I thought this was well known, apparently not!
 
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