Obama picks Sotomayor for Supreme Court -- bye bye Republican Party

Darla said:
"AHZ, I think we may have both have surpassed today in the "dick" category by BAC. He is of course a black male. "

I of course have Southern "man" on IA because there is only so much ignorance I can take, but I read this in Bac's reply to him. This cracks me up because this is what they really obsess about you know. This is too, why they have always attempted to stigmatize white women who became lovers with black men. It's all about the dick fear. It's quite amazing.
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OUCH !!!
 
SmarterThanYou said:
now you're just making shit up. I never said I was a failure and I never said I had valedictorian grades. I merely said she had better opportunities because of her race and gender and that nobody here knew what grades I did have.

Again, my pursuit was the USMC, not college. at least not at that time anyway.

tell me about it. I'm sitting here chatting with you.

I disagree. I've been in the IT field for 15 years, self taught, no formal schooling whatsoever. It can be done because I'm doing it, right now.
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Whatever you've accomplished with your life, I'm happy for you.

My argument is not about what you have or have not accomplished, my argument is with all the whining by a bunch of dudes who fear diversity.

Pretty simple.
 
Darla said:
This cracks me up because this is what they really obsess about you know. This is too, why they have always attempted to stigmatize white women who became lovers with black men. It's all about the dick fear. It's quite amazing.
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how utterly unsurprised I am by more generalizations from the man hater. :rolleyes:
 
Darla said:
"AHZ, I think we may have both have surpassed today in the "dick" category by BAC. He is of course a black male. "

I of course have Southern "man" on IA because there is only so much ignorance I can take, but I read this in Bac's reply to him. This cracks me up because this is what they really obsess about you know. This is too, why they have always attempted to stigmatize white women who became lovers with black men. It's all about the dick fear. It's quite amazing.
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Dick fear is why you have me on ignore.
 
Dungheap said:
I guess what I want to know is how you think Sotomayor misapplied the law, not why you dislike the outcome of the case.
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It is my understanding that she tossed out promotions based on the fact that no minorities qualified for the promotion. Is that not the case?
 
blackascoal said:
My argument is not about what you have or have not accomplished, my argument is with all the whining by a bunch of dudes who fear diversity.

Pretty simple.
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but again, you see racial discrimination as diversity where I see it as......discrimination.

I'm all about diversity. I work with Indians, Muslims, Blacks and Asians. I served with them as well. I have no problem with anyone of any race or gender who pulls their own weight and treats others the same. It's those who prefer that 'minorities' be given advantages over others because of the nature of their birth that is the issue.
 
blackascoal said:
She fits the mold of Obama politics.

However, I do applaud her decision in the CT firefighters case.

Obviously the tests have little to nothing to do with performance. The decision was in the best interests of the city .. in my opinion.
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I am not familiar enough with their tests. Were they racially biased? If they had nothing to do with the job, then why do they exist?
 
SmarterThanYou said:
how utterly unsurprised I am by more generalizations from the man hater. :rolleyes:
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The man hater. You know, they (the women) used to call me the man eater at another board. That was before I settled down, changed my evil ways, and stopped cyber flirting (and even worse) with all the men. Now I am a man hater. Well, I never really thought I was a man eater back when men loved me and women didn't, and I guess I got no reason to think I'm a man hater now that men don't like me so much anymore. But I don't mind your thinking I am, so don't feel badly about it.
 
Darla said:
The man hater. You know, they (the women) used to call me the man eater at another board. That was before I settled down, changed my evil ways, and stopped cyber flirting (and even worse) with all the men. Now I am a man hater. Well, I never really thought I was a man eater back when men loved me and women didn't, and I guess I got no reason to think I'm a man hater now that men don't like me so much anymore. But I don't mind your thinking I am, so don't feel badly about it.
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you shouldn't think I don't like you because I think you hate men. I don't like you because your arrogant and elitist liberal ideas tend to override even the slightest pretense polite and logical discussion. The fact that you're a man hater just makes me think you're a man hater.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
you shouldn't think I don't like you because I think you hate men. I don't like you because your arrogant and elitist liberal ideas tend to override even the slightest pretense polite and logical discussion. The fact that you're a man hater just makes me think you're a man hater.
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LOL I really haven't given it any thought, but thanks for saving me what I'm sure would have been 6 or 7 hours of tossing and turning tonight.
 
Superfreak said:
It is my understanding that she tossed out promotions based on the fact that no minorities qualified for the promotion. Is that not the case?
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It's a bit more complex than that. Here is the trial court opinion:

http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02CTXC/06-03903.PDF

Here is the per curium opinion that Sotomayer was a part of affirming the trial court opinion:

http://www.ca2.uscourts.gov/decisio...b5aaa21-0fd4-4607-882a-5ff364aea30b/4/hilite/


The short version is that the City of New Haven tossed out the test results because it properly determined that if it certified the results it would violate Title VII because the test has a discriminatory impact. The trial court opinion explains why the City acted properly and its reason for tossing out the results was not a pretext for intentional discrimination against white people. The appeals court opinion basically says that the City had no good options and, as unfortunate it may be for Ricci and the others, its actions did not violate Title VII.
 
Dungheap said:
The short version is that the City of New Haven tossed out the test results because it properly determined that if it certified the results it would violate Title VII because the test has a discriminatory impact. The trial court opinion explains why the City acted properly and its reason for tossing out the results was not a pretext for intentional discrimination against white people. The appeals court opinion basically says that the City had no good options and, as unfortunate it may be for Ricci and the others, its actions did not violate Title VII.
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Did the trial court examine the test or have any expert testimony about it, or did they just accept the cities testimony that they were racially biased? This is where I get leery of the court system, for their seeming inability to determine that a city is capable of falsifying information in a trial.
 
Southern Man said:
Tell the truth: did you lick BAC's balls and told him they were salty? :eek:
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I can see that your, um, let's call it "curiosity" is overwhelming you. So I will make you a promise that if I ever do, I will let you know what they taste like so you have something more...tactile, to flavor your fantasies about him.

In the meantime, I guess it's just going to be you and your hand...again. Well, here's to you SM:

watch
 
Dungheap said:
It's a bit more complex than that. Here is the trial court opinion:

http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/courtweb/pdf/D02CTXC/06-03903.PDF

Here is the per curium opinion that Sotomayer was a part of affirming the trial court opinion:

http://www.ca2.uscourts.gov/decisio...b5aaa21-0fd4-4607-882a-5ff364aea30b/4/hilite/


The short version is that the City of New Haven tossed out the test results because it properly determined that if it certified the results it would violate Title VII because the test has a discriminatory impact. The trial court opinion explains why the City acted properly and its reason for tossing out the results was not a pretext for intentional discrimination against white people. The appeals court opinion basically says that the City had no good options and, as unfortunate it may be for Ricci and the others, its actions did not violate Title VII.
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just because they believe it had a discriminatory impact (lets assume it did) that is not a violation of title vii....you need more than just a discriminatory impact....you need intent, there is case law for this, but i will simply give you title vii law....

nor shall it be an unlawful employment practice for an employer to give and to act upon the results of any professionally developed ability test provided that such test, its administration or action upon the results is not designed, intended or used to discriminate because of race, color, religion, sex or national origin

http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/vii.html

the board's actions, however, were based upon race
 
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Yurt said:
just because they believe it had a discriminatory impact (lets assume it did) that is not a violation of title vii....you need more than just a discriminatory impact....you need intent, there is case law for this, but i will simply give you title vii law....

nor shall it be an unlawful employment practice for an employer to give and to act upon the results of any professionally developed ability test provided that such test, its administration or action upon the results is not designed, intended or used to discriminate because of race, color, religion, sex or national origin

http://www.eeoc.gov/policy/vii.html
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Look, I provided the link to the trial court opinion. Feel free to read it but don't give my this nonsense analysis.
 
Dungheap said:
Look, I provided the link to the trial court opinion. Feel free to read it but don't give my this nonsense analysis.
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what exactly is nonsense? i provided you with the law, are you incapable of reading the law and applying it to the facts in this case? please show me one thing i posted that is not true, wrong or doesn't make sense.

do you believe that by failing to certify the test results, this altered the test results, in that, by failiing to certify the results, the test scores became meaningless, e.g., altered?
 
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