Should Two- and Four-Year Degrees Be Free?

[BidenPresident]

More than enough.
If after 13 years of free "education" and you need more "free education" but can't pay for your own, earn a scholarship or get a job that trains you.

don't agree

 

[RB 60]

don't agree

You want free? Earn it.

 

[BidenPresident]

You want free? Earn it.

No, education benefits everyone.

 

[RB 60]

No, education benefits everyone.

No, it doesn't.

 

[BidenPresident]

No, it doesn't.

yes it does no it doesn't yes it does no it doesn't.....

 

[ExpressLane]

I do not give a shit about you, you fucking troll.

Ha Ha Ha I thought you said you were putting me on ignore you fucking liar. Why are you still here anyway. You promised us you were leaving.

 

[Walt]

Basically, the alt right solution to who does medical research is not who is most qualified, but who has the most family money to pay for the education needed. This makes us a less intelligent country, and means we will fall behind others.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

I'm sure that handing out four-year degrees in stuff like:

Blacksmithing (Southern Illinois Univ)
Floral arrangement (Mississippi State)
Pop music (Univ of Southern California)
Puppet arts (Univ of Connecticut)
Sexual studies (Ohio State)
Turfgrass science (Penn State)
Bowling alley management (Vincennes Univ)

Will be worth every penny robbed from taxpayers...

 

[RB 60]

I'm sure that handing out four-year degrees in stuff like:

Blacksmithing (Southern Illinois Univ)
Floral arrangement (Mississippi State)
Pop music (Univ of Southern California)
Puppet arts (Univ of Connecticut)
Sexual studies (Ohio State)
Turfgrass science (Penn State)
Bowling alley management (Vincennes Univ)

Will be worth every penny robbed from taxpayers...

Actually, blacksmithing is worth learning. There's a lot more to it than simply beating on hot knives. There's a lot to know about metallurgy. Metal compositions, hardening, tempering, grinding, finishing, etc.
Turfgrass science? TruGreen is a good, profitable business. Ever see what they charge? Football/baseball stadiums pay the head groundskeeper pretty well.

That said, there are many useless courses that have no worth whatsoever in career advancement. Unless you're teaching transgender studies in Pakistan...

 

[Bulletbob]

My thread. You don't have to post on it.

True but its so funny to watch you struggle with the truth and not make a idiot out of your self

 

[Wolverine]

Heh. Who the hell makes that kind of mistake.

humans

 

[Cypress]

I'm sure that handing out four-year degrees in stuff like:

Blacksmithing (Southern Illinois Univ)
Floral arrangement (Mississippi State)
Pop music (Univ of Southern California)
Puppet arts (Univ of Connecticut)
Sexual studies (Ohio State)
Turfgrass science (Penn State)
Bowling alley management (Vincennes Univ)

Will be worth every penny robbed from taxpayers...

You are posting information which is wildly out of date, and it makes me wonder if your post can be trusted at all.

"Vincennes University Axes Bowling Management Degree Program"

DECEMBER 21, 2015

https://indianapublicmedia.org/stat...rsity-axes-bowling-management-degree-program/

There is nothing wrong with turf management, floral design, blacksmithing, pop music careers. Not everybody is going to be an engineer or lawyer.

Puppetry is a real career, albeit a niche one. Anyone who has seen the animotronic puppets at Disneyland or watched Sesame Street can tell you that.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate....do-you-get-to-be-a-professional-puppeteer.amp

There is no point for rightwing losers to get angry at the small group of people who want to go into a theatrical career.

 

[Cypress]

But not very badly, which is a good description of most of what they accomplish...

You can move to an uncivilized country if you want, a country which neither values nor invests in social work, art, theater, humanities.

Somalia might be a good choice for you.

In a civilized, western democracy, people have the freedom to pursue the career of their choice - be it engineering, social work, or theater - and become productive, tax paying citizens along the way, which serves state and national interests.

 

[Cypress]

No, psychology majors sit around smoking pot saying, "Wow, like humans are weird, right?!" All they do.

My degree was in the physical sciences, but I never copped an elitist attittude that psychology and humanities majors were moronic losers.

I had a girlfriend who majored in psychology, was very smart, and went on to a career as a social worker. I really do not think she was freakishly unusual.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Some uneducated people understand the value of education,
and if they cannot attain higher education for themselves,
they at least aspire to it for their progeny.

Many uneducated people, on the other hand,
are Republican voters. They've been well described on these pages already.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

You are posting information which is wildly out of date, and it makes me wonder if your post can be trusted at all.



There is nothing wrong with turf management, floral design, blacksmithing, pop music careers. Not everybody is going to be an engineer or lawyer.

Puppetry is a real career, albeit a niche one. Anyone who has seen the animotronic puppets at Disneyland or watched Sesame Street can tell you that.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate....do-you-get-to-be-a-professional-puppeteer.amp

There is no point for rightwing losers to get angry at the small group of people who want to go into a theatrical career.

You miss the point. These don't require a 4 year degree from a university to do. Floral design, blacksmithing, and what amounts to specialized landscaping are trades that can be learned by apprenticing or vocationally. Pop music on the other hand, is just a waste of time BA in nonsense.

 

[BidenPresident]

Basically, the alt right solution to who does medical research is not who is most qualified, but who has the most family money to pay for the education needed. This makes us a less intelligent country, and means we will fall behind others.

Well said.

 

[BidenPresident]

I'm sure that handing out four-year degrees in stuff like:

Blacksmithing (Southern Illinois Univ)
Floral arrangement (Mississippi State)
Pop music (Univ of Southern California)
Puppet arts (Univ of Connecticut)
Sexual studies (Ohio State)
Turfgrass science (Penn State)
Bowling alley management (Vincennes Univ)

Will be worth every penny robbed from taxpayers...

So? Close the universities because someone studies turf? You sound like a totalitarian,.

 

[Son of the Revolution]

So? Close the universities because someone studies turf? You sound like a totalitarian,.

NO to free college... you would have the fucking liberals brainwashing everyone

 

[anonymoose]

The Biden administration has proposed reforms to ease the student-debt crisis. But a real solution must upend a system of cascading inequities. Restoring the dream of higher education as an equalizer requires a holistic solution that attacks all the sources of the problem: a lack of investment in common goods, growing tuition and student debt and exploitative labor practices that undermine the quality of education.

The rise in tuition costs, combined with the growing economic value of a college degree, fuels the crisis of student debt, which today totals $1.7 trillion. To pay for a year of school, three-quarters of American families pay at least 24 percent of their average family income, even after grants are distributed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/opinion/community-college-student-debt-sanders.html

Im ok with free two yr degrees as long as it’s in a marketable skill like electrician or plumbing.