No evidence of Sedition

SmarterthanYou said:
https://thepostmillennial.com/doj-admits-theres-little-evidence-to-support-jan-6-sedition-charges/

As the trials get underway for those who participated in the Capitol riot of Jan. 6, it turns out that the charges against these defendants are not as serious as the public was initially led to believe. The Department of Justice has since said that a portion of the evidence is not actually quite as damning as was previously believed.

Reuters reports that none of those 400 who have been charged have been charged with sedition, which would be an incitement of rebellion. Instead, the most serious charge brought against any of the defendants has been assault. Two of the men who were charged with assault on Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick used bear spray in the attack.

Others have been charged with conspiracy, and obstruction. While five people lost their lives during the riot, only one was killed with a weapon, and that was Ashli Babbit, who died after being shot by an unnamed Capitol Police Officer. Sicknick was assaulted with bear spray, but died some time later and a cause of death has not been released. The other three suffered medical emergencies.

Michael Ferrara, an attorney with Kaplan Hecker & Fink, LLP, who was formerly a federal prosecutor, said that if it becomes clear that prosecutors overreached, engaged in hyperbole, of simply misunderstood social media and text messages, it would be no "small error."

In fact, Ferrara said, the prosecutors' zealotry could "color the way the judge see the case going forward," which would impact outcomes for defendants.

It was widely pushed in media after the Jan. 6 Capitol riot that those who engaged in the activity of disrupting congress were armed and violent and that senators and representatives feared for their lives. However, the investigation into the actions of that day have revealed that no one was armed with a fire arm, and the most egregious assault charges are against men who were armed with bear spray.
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Yup.

Democrats have gone full Nazi, but even they can't make this molehill a mountain.
 
reagansghost said:
how would you even know sedition charges won't be brought dumberthanmost?

do you work for DOJ?
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My guess is he was reading that article where Reuters reports that zero sedition charges have been filed...

I'm pretty sure he also noticed things in this article like the following:

Arizona prosecutors who detained Jacob Chansley, the horned "shaman" styled figure, had initially said that they had "strong evidence," inclusive of his "own words and actions," that indicated that the "intent of the Capitol rioters was to capture and assassinate elected officials." This did not prove out, and no evidence of that nature was submitted.
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and this:

Another man, Ethan Nordean, was accused of sending "encrypted communications" to the Proud Boys, but this, too, was dropped when it turned out that his phone battery died and he was unable to use it. The judge in Nordean's case said there was a "dearth of evidence" and declined to jail him. Prosecutors are trying again, however.
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You know those "big players" that were "inciting sedition" don't seem to be that big anymore...

Anyway, you can hold that hope out for longer I guess. Pretend that the DOJ itself hasn't admitted that there just isn't any supporting evidence for "sedition".
 
ExpressLane said:
So those that have attacked the Federal Court house and tried to burn it down while it was occupied are guilty of sedition.
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That was different.

You see, it's the US Capitol that is sacred, unless Puerto Rican nationalists are shooting it up or leftists are setting off bombs in the building.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
https://thepostmillennial.com/doj-admits-theres-little-evidence-to-support-jan-6-sedition-charges/

As the trials get underway for those who participated in the Capitol riot of Jan. 6, it turns out that the charges against these defendants are not as serious as the public was initially led to believe. The Department of Justice has since said that a portion of the evidence is not actually quite as damning as was previously believed.

Reuters reports that none of those 400 who have been charged have been charged with sedition, which would be an incitement of rebellion. Instead, the most serious charge brought against any of the defendants has been assault. Two of the men who were charged with assault on Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick used bear spray in the attack.

Others have been charged with conspiracy, and obstruction. While five people lost their lives during the riot, only one was killed with a weapon, and that was Ashli Babbit, who died after being shot by an unnamed Capitol Police Officer. Sicknick was assaulted with bear spray, but died some time later and a cause of death has not been released. The other three suffered medical emergencies.

Michael Ferrara, an attorney with Kaplan Hecker & Fink, LLP, who was formerly a federal prosecutor, said that if it becomes clear that prosecutors overreached, engaged in hyperbole, of simply misunderstood social media and text messages, it would be no "small error."

In fact, Ferrara said, the prosecutors' zealotry could "color the way the judge see the case going forward," which would impact outcomes for defendants.

It was widely pushed in media after the Jan. 6 Capitol riot that those who engaged in the activity of disrupting congress were armed and violent and that senators and representatives feared for their lives. However, the investigation into the actions of that day have revealed that no one was armed with a fire arm, and the most egregious assault charges are against men who were armed with bear spray.
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No charges have been filed yet.
 
Phantasmal said:
LOL, they are still weighing charges against some Oath Keepers and Proud Boys, there is still more to come.
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Maybe that will be it, finally lol.

It’s sometimes hard to accept the most likely explanation but the most likely explanation is 1/6 was a flash mob/ad hoc riot and so far the evidence [in the form of charges] bears that out.

But you can remain hopeful.
 
Darth Omar said:
Maybe that will be it, finally lol.

It’s sometimes hard to accept the most likely explanation but the most likely explanation is 1/6 was a flash mob/ad hoc riot and so far the evidence [in the form of charges] bears that out.

But you can remain hopeful.
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I am hopeful that justice will be done and those guilty persecuted for their crimes, nothing more.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
https://thepostmillennial.com/doj-admits-theres-little-evidence-to-support-jan-6-sedition-charges/

As the trials get underway for those who participated in the Capitol riot of Jan. 6, it turns out that the charges against these defendants are not as serious as the public was initially led to believe. The Department of Justice has since said that a portion of the evidence is not actually quite as damning as was previously believed.

Reuters reports that none of those 400 who have been charged have been charged with sedition, which would be an incitement of rebellion. Instead, the most serious charge brought against any of the defendants has been assault. Two of the men who were charged with assault on Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick used bear spray in the attack.

Others have been charged with conspiracy, and obstruction. While five people lost their lives during the riot, only one was killed with a weapon, and that was Ashli Babbit, who died after being shot by an unnamed Capitol Police Officer. Sicknick was assaulted with bear spray, but died some time later and a cause of death has not been released. The other three suffered medical emergencies.

Michael Ferrara, an attorney with Kaplan Hecker & Fink, LLP, who was formerly a federal prosecutor, said that if it becomes clear that prosecutors overreached, engaged in hyperbole, of simply misunderstood social media and text messages, it would be no "small error."

In fact, Ferrara said, the prosecutors' zealotry could "color the way the judge see the case going forward," which would impact outcomes for defendants.

It was widely pushed in media after the Jan. 6 Capitol riot that those who engaged in the activity of disrupting congress were armed and violent and that senators and representatives feared for their lives. However, the investigation into the actions of that day have revealed that no one was armed with a fire arm, and the most egregious assault charges are against men who were armed with bear spray.
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Usually conspiracy cases don't produce the big fish until after the little fish roll on them.

And boy, are there a lot of little fish here.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
still holding out hope that they haven't found the major players yet?????
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Any investigation is going to start with the little fish, and those little fish always -ALWAYS- roll up on the bigger fish up the chain.

I bet by the Fall, you'll see a lot of major charges for the major players, including sedition.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
is that the same place you'll find evidence of russian/trump collusion?
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If there was no Russian collusion, then why did Paul Manafort, when he was Trump's campaign manager, ask Konstantin Kilimnik to share confidential GOP polling data from upper Midwest states with Oleg Deripaska?

Will you have the courage to answer that question, or will you act like Anatta and completely avoid it?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
something that most people should try to understand is how the law works

if someone is not charged and convicted as a traitor, they are not a traitor
if someone is not charged and convicted with sedition, they are not an insurrectionist

no matter how badly you want someone to be a treasonous individual, if they aren't convicted of treason, they are not guilty of treason

and last I looked, Joe or Kamala cannot bring charges, that is the job of the DOJ/AG............and if the evidence isn't there, then they are acquitted, or better, charges will be dismissed by that judge
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So if all it takes is one person to be charged with sedition in order to retcon an insurrection, then what the fuck are you going to say when they do start charging people with sedition?
 
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