The felons from Jan 6 should never legally carry a gun again.

[LV426]

and that private training is paid for by government..........but i'm thinking LV probably didn't know that...

Here are the qualifications for Air Traffic Controller straight from the FAA...please show me where in here they require military service or training:

->Be a United States citizen
->Be age 30 or under (on the closing date of the application period)
->Pass a medical examination
->Pass a security investigation
->Pass the FAA air traffic pre-employment test
->Speak English clearly enough to be understood over communications equipment
->Have three years of progressively responsible work experience, or a Bachelor's degree, or a combination of post-secondary education and work experience that totals three years
->Be willing to relocate to an FAA facility based on agency staffing needs

If you can't do that, then shut your fat, lying face.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

The reason the military couldn't protect any Americans over the last 20 years is because they weren't allowed?

show any evidence where they were ordered to go somewhere and defeat someone or some entity to stop in impending terrorist attack. you're really showing your stupid streak by being stuck on this 'military didn't do nuffin cause they're incompetent', when they can't do anything unless specifically ordered to do something by the C in C.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Here are the qualifications for Air Traffic Controller straight from the FAA...please show me where in here they require military service or training:

->Be a United States citizen
->Be age 30 or under (on the closing date of the application period)
->Pass a medical examination
->Pass a security investigation
->Pass the FAA air traffic pre-employment test
->Speak English clearly enough to be understood over communications equipment
->Have three years of progressively responsible work experience, or a Bachelor's degree, or a combination of post-secondary education and work experience that totals three years
->Be willing to relocate to an FAA facility based on agency staffing needs

If you can't do that, then shut your fat, lying face.

I NEVER stipulated that you must be military. I stipulated that even civilian training is paid for by government at the FAA academy.

 

[Jarod]

shall not be infringed seems pretty clear to anyone who isn't afraid of freedom

But you are okay with taking that right away in some circumstances.

 

[Flash]

None, except for one stun gun, carried as part of a walking stick.

Federal law prohibits felons from owning firearms and those with misdemeanor domestic violence convictions.

 

[LV426]

you have to be trained at the FAA academy in Oklahoma. That academy training is paid for by your federal government.

Right, but it's not the military...and it's a service that protects people and this country...and you don't need to have served in order to get the job.

So you're an over-glorified ATC who probably didn't really earn the entitlements you think you're owed.

Even if you were trained in the military, you still have to attend the academy.

OK, so then the military didn't "Create" air-traffic controllers and has absolutely nothing to do with them.

So you wanna take this back:

how do you think civilian air traffic controllers are created?

So civilian air traffic controllers

1. aren't created by the military
2. aren't trained by the military
3. and aren't funded by the military

The FAA is a part of the Department of Transportation, so Mr. Pete Buttigieg, as a civilian, is the one in charge of them.

 

[LV426]

and yet i've displayed superior knowledge about it in this very thread alone.............go figure.

What superior knowledge? You haven't shown any knowledge here. Instead, you set fungible parameters and walk shit back right after you say it.

 

[LV426]

show any evidence where they were ordered to go somewhere and defeat someone or some entity to stop in impending terrorist attack.

If they can't stop an impending terrorist attack, like 9/11 or 1/6, then they can't be relied upon to protect us.

The problem is that you're talking purely in hypotheticals whereas I'm talking entirely in facts that have occurred.

So the military didn't protect us on 9/11, 1/6, any mass shooter, any pandemic, any foreign hackers, any meddling in our election!

Shit, they even had a mass shooter at one of their fucking bases.

I just can't with this anymore. Every single argument against my position just further solidifies my point!

You would have us believe that civilian commanders deliberately prevent the military from protecting us? How did civilian commanders do that on 9/11? Unless you're going to say Bush let 9/11 happen.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

But you are okay with taking that right away in some circumstances.

yes, when the terms of the 5th Amendment 'due process of law' have been met and that person is in the custody of the united states. that does not make a right 'alienable' and to imply such stupidity is hyperbolic idiocy

 

[LV426]

I NEVER stipulated that you must be military. I stipulated that even civilian training is paid for by government at the FAA academy.

Which is fine by me.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Right, but it's not the military...and it's a service that protects people and this country...and you don't need to have served in order to get the job.

So you're an over-glorified ATC who probably didn't really earn the entitlements you think you're owed.

OK, so then the military didn't "Create" air-traffic controllers and has absolutely nothing to do with them.

So you wanna take this back:

So civilian air traffic controllers

1. aren't created by the military
2. aren't trained by the military
3. and aren't funded by the military

The FAA is a part of the Department of Transportation, so Mr. Pete Buttigieg, as a civilian, is the one in charge of them.

The US Navy has an AC school. That's AC as in Air Control. They train military air traffic controllers there. To be an Air Traffic Control in the Navy or Marine Corps, you must have graduated from that school. You then get issued your ATC card/license. You then get stationed somewhere and you train there in the specifics of the locale.

I don't need to take anything back because everything I said has been true. your hatred is blinding you to knowledge and logic. again.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

What superior knowledge? You haven't shown any knowledge here. Instead, you set fungible parameters and walk shit back right after you say it.

everything i've ever stated here about government has been superior to yours. i've also not had to walk back anything. you've certainly doubled down on stupid, though.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

If they can't stop an impending terrorist attack, like 9/11 or 1/6, then they can't be relied upon to protect us.

The problem is that you're talking purely in hypotheticals whereas I'm talking entirely in facts that have occurred.

So the military didn't protect us on 9/11, 1/6, any mass shooter, any pandemic, any foreign hackers, any meddling in our election!

Shit, they even had a mass shooter at one of their fucking bases.

I just can't with this anymore. Every single argument against my position just further solidifies my point!

You would have us believe that civilian commanders deliberately prevent the military from protecting us? How did civilian commanders do that on 9/11? Unless you're going to say Bush let 9/11 happen.

still astounded that not only are you that ignorant, you're totally stuck on stupid and determined to make it your reality. good luck with that.

 

[LV426]

The US Navy has an AC school. That's AC as in Air Control. They train military air traffic controllers there. To be an Air Traffic Control in the Navy or Marine Corps, you must have graduated from that school. You then get issued your ATC card/license. You then get stationed somewhere and you train there in the specifics of the locale.

I don't need to take anything back because everything I said has been true. your hatred is blinding you to knowledge and logic. again.

Right, but you don't need to have served in the military to get a job as a civilian ATC.

 

[LV426]

everything i've ever stated here about government has been superior to yours.

I'm sure you think that, and that it provides you with a lot of comfort, self-satisfaction, and self-gratification.

 

[LV426]

still astounded that not only are you that ignorant, you're totally stuck on stupid and determined to make it your reality. good luck with that.

I don't think it's unfair of me to ask if you think civilian commanders deliberately prevented the military from protecting us against terrorist attacks like 9/11 or 1/6.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Right, but you don't need to have served in the military to get a job as a civilian ATC.

I never stated that anyone had to.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I don't think it's unfair of me to ask if you think civilian commanders deliberately prevented the military from protecting us against terrorist attacks like 9/11 or 1/6.

isn't that information kinda classified? who denied the national guard on 1/6? who has authority over the national guard in D.C.?

I repeat, the military can't do anything without being ordered to do so.

 

[gfm7175]

Heh. I used to run contests like this. Maybe I should start them up again.
I would pick one fallacy, but not tell the contestants what it is, counting the scores for how many times they committed it, then announced the fallacy at the end of the month with the total scores. Only contestants selected by me participated in the contest. They were all liberals.

I remember seeing a bit of this... Ahhhh, the good old days

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Not possible to ban someone from owning a gun. The right of self defense is inherent.

Sorry but it is illegal for a convicted felon who has not had thetr rights restored to own or possess a firearm in most if not all states.