Wake Up Call

blackascoal said:
In case you missed it, I think it's a dumb idea from any state attempting it.

If by "your people" you mean African-Americans on the issue of gay-marriage .. we're dumb like that. What can I tell you?

We're homophobic and far too tied to religion.

But even among the homophobic, like African-Americans, even they are starting to smell the coffee. Since you've been keeping up on the California referendums, I'm sure you're aware of how support against gay marriage there keeps dwindling and support for it keeps rising.

Soon California will be as progressive a state as ... IOWA.
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good. as far as social liberties goes, cali has done somewhat ok and needs to go further. wait, what am I talking about. i forgot i'm supposed to be a rightie. nm.
 
Dungheap said:
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yet when they break that down by income class, it doesn't add up. so i'm not seeing how they came to that number

dung, post the link for that page please because i'm still not seeing it.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/117472/Say-Low-Income-Americans-Paying-Fair-Share-Taxes.aspx
this is where i'm looking.
 
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SmarterThanYou said:
you're daft. totally bonkers. do i defend bush? yeah, sometimes, but generally only because most of you worship obama (not necessarily you...all the time), but you've obviously ignored the times that i HAVE criticized bush or cheney and whether thats due to your preconceived notions about me or that it's of little interest to me now since bush and cheney are not in office.
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Lots of republicans criticized Bush and Cheney once they knew the jig was up .. and lots of them ran to suddenly become libertarians.

That's not a secret .. just in case you thought it was.

and it's not my side of the fence. you are completely wrong about most libertarians and like most typical partisans you only have the ability to see things in left or right mode. Libertarians are NOT disaffected republicans, although more and more of them seem to line up with our fiscal conservative views, but mostly we're about a very limited government. they need to get out of the marriage business. that doesn't mean we are pro gay marriage, but we're not anti gay marriage either. it's not OUR business what people do in their personal lives.
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A. I'm not a partisan. What party do I belong to?

B. I talk to libertarians all the time .. in fact, one of my projects is for libertarians in Georgia. I know exactly who libertarians are, and I know they are all over the map, including liberventionalist, pro-war libertarians.

Did you support the Iraq War?

anyway, I don't think it would matter much explaining the libertarian position to you because I don't think you're capable of seeing outside of your own reality.
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Explanation unnecssary brother.

I know what libertarian "free market" thinking is.

What I'm not capable of is assuming fantasy as reality .. like the fantasy of a "free market" .. that doesn't exist anywhere on the planet.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
hey you little bitch cunt. just because they throw a number up there doesn't mean its accurate ESPECIALLY when they can't show it in any of the bar graphs included in the article.

now shut the fuck up and go wear a 'conservatives suck' sign at your tea party. I dare you.
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well, well, well I made the bag licker a little mad.

Dont take it out on yout teabag party friend and go biting him at the wrong time mmmkay.

Facts always rattle your pathetic little world huh.
 
evince said:
well, well, well I made the bag licker a little mad.

Dont take it out on yout teabag party friend and go biting him at the wrong time mmmkay.

Facts always rattle your pathetic little world huh.
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We plan on tea-bagging the Democratic Legislature in Colorado today. ;)
 
evince said:
well, well, well I made the bag licker a little mad.

Dont take it out on yout teabag party friend and go biting him at the wrong time mmmkay.

Facts always rattle your pathetic little world huh.
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and facts never seem to get in the way of yours.

you still got the dem partys nuts in your mouth?
 
evince said:
well, well, well I made the bag licker a little mad.

Dont take it out on yout teabag party friend and go biting him at the wrong time mmmkay.

Facts always rattle your pathetic little world huh.
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Since you are such a fan of FACTS... what did you think of the FACTS presented on the Columbine thread???
 
Dungheap said:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/117433/Views-Income-Taxes-Among-Positive-1956.aspx
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Thank you, sir. Now I see that particular graph. I did find this part interesting though,

Generally speaking, Americans seem to take a more positive view of their taxes when the country is at war. From 1997 through 2001, the percentage saying their taxes were fair ranged from 45% to 51%. In early 2002, after the United States had begun military operations in Afghanistan in response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks, 58% said their taxes were fair. After the Iraq war began in 2003, the percentage increased to 64%, and it has been above 60% ever since.
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Dungheap said:
OK. So he likes to pick and choose which federal government largesse he accepts. Clever little guy innit he?

You know what the answer is to the Governor's "issue." Reject the funds. It's that simple. Don't want to lower the legal BAC limit? Reject federal highway funds. No need for this dumbass sovereignty horseshit.
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It's called responsible governing, nothing funny about it. That people like you are cheerleading the the further errosion of our republic isn't fuunny either, it's disturbing. States have a right to federal "largesse" since their citizenry gives to it!!! See, it's not the governments money, it's ours. To reject money that would regulate how a governor can govern his state is a fascist attempt by this power hungry administration to control states.
 
Ice Dancer said:
It's called responsible governing, nothing funny about it. That people like you are cheerleading the the further errosion of our republic isn't fuunny either, it's disturbing. States have a right to federal "largesse" since their citizenry gives to it!!! See, it's not the governments money, it's ours. To reject money that would regulate how a governor can govern his state is a fascist attempt by this power hungry administration to control states.
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Whatever, guy. Perry is a jackass. I suppose his talk about secession today was just more responsible governing?
 
Dungheap said:
Whatever, guy. Perry is a jackass. I suppose his talk about secession today was just more responsible governing?
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Perry IS a jackass. Texas is doomed for 6 more years of crap though because all we're going to get to choose from is Perry again or Kay Bailey..........

ugh, I just threw up in my mouth a little.
 
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