Study: Lockdowns Had Largest Impact in Destroying Economic Activity

The experts' lack of understanding of COVID has been the chief problem. Remember, it's not transmissible amongst humans, and we don't-do-don't-actually need to double-mask.

Lack of ability and/or willingness to get the information we need within a reasonable time frame is iron clad proof that we need different and better experts.

Even now, a year and a half into this bugs rampaging, our "experts" dont know so many of the basics.
 
Had you and Trump taken this seriously from the beginning, there wouldn't have been any lockdowns and we'd all be enjoying live sports right now.
 
The use of universal lockdowns in the event of the appearance of a new pathogen has no precedent. It has been a science experiment in real time, with most of the human population used as lab rats. The costs are legion.

The question is whether lockdowns worked to control the virus in a way that is scientifically verifiable. Based on the following studies, the answer is no and for a variety of reasons: bad data, no correlations, no causal demonstration, anomalous exceptions, and so on. There is no relationship between lockdowns (or whatever else people want to call them to mask their true nature) and virus control.

Perhaps this is a shocking revelation, given that universal social and economic controls are becoming the new orthodoxy. In a saner world, the burden of proof really should belong to the lock-downers, since it is they who overthrew 100 years of public-health wisdom and replaced it with an untested, top-down imposition on freedom and human rights. They never accepted that burden. They took it as axiomatic that a virus could be intimidated and frightened by credentials, edicts, speeches, and masked gendarmes.

The pro-lockdown evidence is shockingly thin, and based largely on comparing real-world outcomes against dire computer-generated forecasts derived from empirically untested models, and then merely positing that stringencies and “nonpharmaceutical interventions” account for the difference between the fictionalized vs. the real outcome.

The anti-lockdown studies, on the other hand, are evidence-based, robust, and thorough, grappling with the data we have (with all its flaws) and looking at the results in light of controls on the population.

https://www.aier.org/article/lockdowns-do-not-control-the-coronavirus-the-evidence/

So then answer the simple question presented above, if there were no shutdowns and everything continued as usual while Covid spread unchecked people would be flocking to bars and restaurants as if nothing unusual was happening?
 
The lockdowns are a result of the Trump virus. You cannot separate them. Do you think we would have had lockdowns if the Trump virus did not happen?

Horse hockey.

Are the Euro economic woes due the Trump Virus or the mitigation policy?

The two are begging to be separated. Trump is gone but if we lockdown again the economic results will be identical and result in the same degree of human misery. What has plagued our response is the total lack of consideration for the collateral damage [including deaths] caused by COVID guidelines.

Democrats insist on putting epidemiologists effectively in control of the economy. The obvious problem with that is they are only trained in one area. But since ‘following the science’ has become a sort of axiom or mantra, politicians are hesitant *to do their job* by balancing the concerns of the virus vs jobs lost, businesses lost, schools closed, spikes in drug overdoses and etc.

So here we are with a wrecked economy and all the misery that goes with it. Who knows how long the recovery will take. And virus was going to do what it was going to do to a very large extent. Kind of sucks.

Future historians won’t look kindly on it and it will have little to nothing to do with Trump.
 
Horse hockey.

Are the Euro economic woes due the Trump Virus or the mitigation policy?

The two are begging to be separated. Trump is gone but if we lockdown again the economic results will be identical and result in the same degree of human misery. What has plagued our response is the total lack of consideration for the collateral damage [including deaths] caused by COVID guidelines.

Democrats insist on putting epidemiologists effectively in control of the economy. The obvious problem with that is they are only trained in one area. But since ‘following the science’ has become a sort of axiom or mantra, politicians are hesitant *to do their job* by balancing the concerns of the virus vs jobs lost, businesses lost, schools closed, spikes in drug overdoses and etc.

So here we are with a wrecked economy and all the misery that goes with it. Who knows how long the recovery will take. And virus was going to do what it was going to do to a very large extent. Kind of sucks.

Future historians won’t look kindly on it and it will have little to nothing to do with Trump.

So then you answer the simple question, if there were no shutdowns and everything continued as usual all last year while Covid spread unchecked people would be flocking to bars and restaurants and nothing would be closed as if nothing unusual was happening?
 
So then you answer the simple question, if there were no shutdowns and everything continued as usual all last year while Covid spread unchecked people would be flocking to bars and restaurants and nothing would be closed as if nothing unusual was happening?

I think at some point if enough people ended up in ICU after going to bars—they would go there less.

Who do you think did the best job of balancing the virus vs the economy? DeSantis?
 
I think at some point if enough people ended up in ICU after going to bars—they would go there less.

Who do you think did the best job of balancing the virus vs the economy? DeSantis?

Lots less, and it not only applies to bars, Covid on its own would have shut down the economy at even greater cost, the rhetoric with shutdowns and the economy is a misnomer
 
I'm sick of hearing all the fucking complaints about the lockdown.

I lifted the dust cover off my turntable and reacquainted myself with my vinyl collection.

It was great.
 
Lots less, and it not only applies to bars, Covid on its own would have shut down the economy at even greater cost, the rhetoric with shutdowns and the economy is a misnomer

What benefits were derived from shutting mom and pop businesses while allowing the box stores to stay open?

And you missed a question.
 
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