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Dutch Uncle said:
It was all Trump, comrade Darth. Get a fucking clue.

OTOH, there might be a silver lining to the Trump administration.


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Yes, everything is Trump’s fault lol.

Get ready to see how vapid and brain dead that axiom is.
 
Darth Omar said:
Yes, everything is Trump’s fault lol.

Get ready to see how vapid and brain dead that axiom is.
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Wrong again, comrade Darth. Only the stupid shit Trump did or failed to do. That's it.

Obviously you've never worked in management or a supervisory capacity since, if you did, then you'd understand about accountability and responsibility....traits tragically missing in the Trump administration.
 
dukkha said:
there is Pussy Riot they pretty much are shock/punk
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The one's Putin locked up?

Once Trump has stopped being the most obstructive, corrosive force in the US government, do you agree that DHS, along with the FBI and CIA where appropriate, should purge the US of hostile foreign agents, especially Russian and Chinese agents, and both arrest and charge American traitors under the "aid and comfort" clause?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The one's Putin locked up?

Once Trump has stopped being the most obstructive, corrosive force in the US government, do you agree that DHS, along with the FBI and CIA where appropriate, should purge the US of hostile foreign agents, especially Russian and Chinese agents, and both arrest and charge American traitors under the "aid and comfort" clause?
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id much more rather see the bureaucrats who can be legally purged out done so.

Change all IC and FBI leadership.
put policies in place like Barr did that any cases involving POTUS or campaign has to go thru the AG
Fire the entire NSC, and rehire
 
dukkha said:
id much more rather see the bureaucrats who can be legally purged out done so.

Change all IC and FBI leadership.
put policies in place like Barr did that any cases involving POTUS or campaign has to go thru the AG
Fire the entire NSC, and rehire
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I'm sure you would, comrade dukkha. It's been obvious to me for months you are hostile to the United States of America and seek to weaken it as much as possible for your mother country of Russia.
 
dukkha said:
no kidding. It's a CHINA LED TRADE PACT
do you think getting into a trade situation designed by China is a good idea?

This is a strategic reason as well for the TPP - as a counter to ASEAN
except you know how bad the TPP is riighy Hillary and Bernie both opposed

So that lever with the old ossified WTO protocol, or a new China/US bilateral. correct?
Which is what Trump got 1/2 way done and Biden should finish.
But Biden is a dumb globalist -gawd knows where we land in trade

it's been in the works,it's like an extension of Silk Road or something
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No, it isn't a good idea for ASEAN either IMHO, not in the long run..

I don't know the details yet but I will be looking into it as time allows........

Biden was talking today but of course nothing specific.....

WTO status certainly needs to change A S A P & that needs to be a priority, but I would guess CHina would threaten to leave &/or set up their own version..
 
Bill said:
No, it isn't a good idea for ASEAN either IMHO, not in the long run..

I don't know the details yet but I will be looking into it as time allows........

Biden was talking today but of course nothing specific.....

WTO status certainly needs to change A S A P & that needs to be a priority, but I would guess CHina would threaten to leave &/or set up their own version..
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very glad to see you got the parameters of each trade agreement scenarios, now it's possible to talk of choices.

The best way is what was working -direct bilateral talks.
I'm terrified Biden will give the economy away for China green promises -we need to stay out of entangling alliances
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed. The Trump administration has been very corrosive to the integrity of the US government. Not just Trump's Tantrum of firing key officials since he lost the election, but for the entire four years.

Trump isn't done either. He'll continue to be a corrosive to democracy for the next 60ish days. As you pointed out, Trump is pushing the US government to be more like Russia than what We, the People, have had in the past.
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This goes back a lot further than Trump. Usually, the deep state isn't so blatant about its agendas, but after Obama turned out to be a Bush clone in foreign policy, it made it obvious that they wanted a high level of interventionism regardless of who entered power. Trump bucked some of that, and they couldn't have that. Biden will satisfy their desires very soon.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Wrong again, comrade Darth. Only the stupid shit Trump did or failed to do. That's it.

Obviously you've never worked in management or a supervisory capacity since, if you did, then you'd understand about accountability and responsibility....traits tragically missing in the Trump administration.
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Darth's point stands. When Biden enters office, are you going to fixate on him to the same degree as you did Trump? If you don't, then your standard for "accountability" will be rather inconsistent.
 
Saudade said:
This goes back a lot further than Trump. Usually, the deep state isn't so blatant about its agendas, but after Obama turned out to be a Bush clone in foreign policy, it made it obvious that they wanted a high level of interventionism regardless of who entered power. Trump bucked some of that, and they couldn't have that. Biden will satisfy their desires very soon.
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Agreed about Trump, disagreed about the "Deep State" Jewish CIA Qanon conspiracy theory BS.
 
Saudade said:
This goes back a lot further than Trump. Usually, the deep state isn't so blatant about its agendas, but after Obama turned out to be a Bush clone in foreign policy, it made it obvious that they wanted a high level of interventionism regardless of who entered power. Trump bucked some of that, and they couldn't have that. Biden will satisfy their desires very soon.
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recall the deep state creeps never thought they would be exposed..what looks blatant now is probably status quo.
Then there are the NSA types like "call me Colonel" Vindman who set out to undermine US policy
 
Saudade said:
Darth's point stands. When Biden enters office, are you going to fixate on him to the same degree as you did Trump? If you don't, then your standard for "accountability" will be rather inconsistent.
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Negative, comrade Saudade. Your username fits your emotional stability. Yes on Biden, comrade. Unlike fucking Russians and monarchists, Americans have a long, long history of openly bitching about those in charge. It's how We, the People keep them in line. If you had any balls, you'd do the same in your country.
 
dukkha said:
recall the deep state creeps never thought they would be exposed..what looks blatant now is probably status quo.
Then there are the NSA types like "call me Colonel" Vindman who set out to undermine US policy
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Again, your Deep State conspiracy theory nonsense reveals you to be both a weak-minded and narrow-minded naked ape. A retrograde who fears a vast, complex world and invents a fantasy to explain it.
 
Darth Omar said:
There will be no ‘mess cleaning’ if Joe listens to the approved scientists.

And that’s not even getting into foreign policy.
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Ah and your true colors come out! You're part of the war on science! You believe that the earth is only a few thousand years old and flat as well, don't you?
 
Trump's Brain said:
Ah and your true colors come out! You're part of the war on science! You believe that the earth is only a few thousand years old and flat as well, don't you?
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Darth believes what Trump tells him to believe. Weak-minded souls need a King or dictator to tell them what to think, what to believe and how to live. Darth is just following the orders of his demagogue.
 
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