Abortion Clinic Delivers LIVE baby, places her into Biohazard Bag and thrown out

KingCondanomation said:
I just raised it because it shocked me, I am undecided when it comes to abortion and don't believe either side can ever be 100% in the right.
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You are absolutely correct and that's what makes abortion such a complicated and emotional issue. You're faced with two moral extremes that are immoral. To prohibit abortion all together for any reason is immoral and to permit abortions under any or all circumstances is also immoral.
 
Mottleydude said:
You're splitting hairs. They were not the attending physician either. That's the point. The Doc wasn't there and they panicked.
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And if I "panic" drive through a light and kill a kid can I be 'forgiven' so easily if I just bag him up and throw the body away because I "panicked"? Does their "panic" in some way mitigate the action?
 
Mottleydude said:
Actually the facts bear out that this was a legal abortion. Even the ME stated so (or did you fail to read that?).

What's disturbing here is not only such a late term abortion practice but the inept and possibly illegal manner in which the clinic managed the fetus.
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What I followed is it would have been a legal abortion if it hadn't become a birth. After that the action was illegal. We'll see if charges follow, the story informed us that we'll know in about a week.
 
Damocles said:
And if I "panic" drive through a light and kill a kid can I be 'forgiven' so easily if I just bag him up and throw the body away because I "panicked"? Does their "panic" in some way mitigate the action?
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Damn dude, who pissed in your post toasties? I was only speculating what probably happened, not making judgement.
 
Damocles said:
What I followed is it would have been a legal abortion if it hadn't become a birth. After that the action was illegal. We'll see if charges follow, the story informed us that we'll know in about a week.
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Again, you must not have read the ME's report. They determined that it was a legal abortion. They did not make a finding of wrongful death. If there will be any charges in this case it will be over the mishandling of the deceased fetus.
 
Mottleydude said:
Again, you must not have read the ME's report. They determined that it was a legal abortion. They did not make a finding of wrongful death. If there will be any charges in this case it will be over the mishandling of the deceased fetus.
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No, per the story they found it was a live birth and the DA is deciding if they will file charges.
 
Damocles said:
No, per the story they found it was a live birth and the DA is deciding if they will file charges.
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I respectfully suggest you read the ME report filed with the police report from the Operation Rescue link. It's at the tail end of the police report.

If the DA files charges, it will be over how the deceased fetus was handled and not over the abortion procedure itself.

and putting aside the fact that a 22 week abortion in itself is disturbing. I'm disturbed over some questions of procedure.

Why was this woman given drugs to induce dilation and contractions and then sent out to her car? Why wasn't she kept in the clinic under observation after this medication was administered?

Who administered the medication? A member of the staff or the attending physician?

Why wasn't the attending physician on site when the artificially induced premature birth occurred?

What are the State of Florida's procedures for these circumstances and did the clinic staff implement these procedures (obviously it doesn't appear they did) and if they did not, why not?

Why wasn't the deceased fetus managed according the established procedure and regulations?

Was there an intent to hide the fetus to avoid legal repurcusions?
 
Watermark said:
Soc, is it normal for a DA to have the autopsy done and then just wait two years, and suddenly decide to pick up the case again?
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Good question! I had not noticed that. This happened two years ago and it's just now being brought to light? Mabye someone should investigate the DA?
 
Damo, this is the only reference to charges in the story:

No criminal charges have been filed in the case, but the state attorney's office is investigating.
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It didn't say we'd know "in about a week". For it to say that, the whole ordeal would've had to happen about a week ago. It happened two years ago. They've been "investigating" for two years when they know practically all the facts. The chance of charges being filed in this case are very low, in light of that burst o' common sense I just provided you with.
 
Mottleydude said:
Good question! I had not noticed that. This happened two years ago and it's just now being brought to light? Mabye someone should investigate the DA?
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Oh puleeeze! It's perfectly normal for the wheels of justice to turn slowly, this is not a TV legal drama. As far as the "light of day" stuff? As this thread proves a lot of people just don't want to hear about a case like this nor do many of them care. It's more likely that the only reason any charges are getting filed at all is due to the group Operation Rescue applying pressure.
 
Watermark said:
Eastwood is one of the guys I'm going to execute when I become dictator. Right after he stops directing movies.
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Don't kill him, WM. He is a moderate republican and a vegan.

Plus, his most recent work is his best.


Unforgiven is the best western he has done. And Gran Torino is the best movie he has ever made.
 
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