Dems to grant statehood to DC and Puerto Rico

So, it's Trump's fault all those people died hum? He killed all of them hum? Sure...

He did. He lied about COVID. His lies resulted in deaths.

Had Joe Biden been President, there wouldn't have been a pandemic at all, and we know that because of how Obama/Biden contained Ebola.
 
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Brad*[/B];3923416]But we should force them to, they cost us too much the way it is now.

How?

I'll set aside the irony of a DEMOCRAT complaining about the cost of maintaining unincorporated territory of the United States where many of the inhabitants are dependent upon federal assistance and vote for DEMOCRATS.
 
He did. He lied about COVID. His lies resulted in deaths.

All 200,000+ of them? That's what's being claimed by people like you...

Had Joe Biden been President, there wouldn't have been a pandemic at all, and we know that because of how Obama/Biden contained Ebola.

Yea, sure. Proof of a negative... You can't prove that for a second. Ebola was totally different. And, Obama / Biden contained it is saying they contained a contagion that wasn't widespread, or really ever a threat to the US except in a few isolated cases.
 
He lied about COVID. His lies resulted in deaths.

Is that so? Explain what "lies" he told, explain how you know they were "lies", and then show a causal relationship between these "lies" and the deaths of each individual that you claim to be a victim.

I'll understand if you can't, of course.

Had Joe Biden been President, there wouldn't have been a pandemic at all, and we know that because of how Obama/Biden contained Ebola.

Is that a fact? That's odd, because according to the WHO and the CDC and the Obama Administration, there was a pandemic during B. Hussein's Reign of Error.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States

Explain how "Obama/Biden contained Ebola" but were apparently unable to contain H1N...or the flu.
 
All 200,000+ of them? That's what's being claimed by people like you...



Yea, sure. Proof of a negative... You can't prove that for a second. Ebola was totally different. And, Obama / Biden contained it is saying they contained a contagion that wasn't widespread, or really ever a threat to the US except in a few isolated cases.

Perhaps Loose Vagina thinks the Obama/Biden Administration also saved the USA from an invasion from Mars, because that didn't happen, either.
 
The federal capital shouldn't be a state that would give a state government power over the federal government. That's why DC isn't a state.

Wrong. If DC became a state, they would have their own state government. Just because the US capitol is in a state, does not mean that state would have any more powers than any other states.

Do try to use your brain!
 
All 200,000+ of them?

I don't believe that anywhere near 200,000 Americans died as a result of the Wu Flu.

You know the tests were overcooked to diagnose people who didn't have any infection or symptoms and were not contagious, don't you?

The NY Times estimates that up to 90 percent of the people who receive a positive test are carrying so little virus that they probably aren’t contagious.

This is because testing used something called a PCR test.

In this test, a test sample is run through a machine that amplifies any DNA particles found in it. Each time you run the sample through the machine you amplify the DNA a bit more.

• In the current PCR testing, they run that sample through 40 times.

This number of amplification cycles needed to find the virus, called the cycle threshold, is never included in the results sent to doctors and coronavirus patients, although it could tell them how infectious the patients are. In three sets of testing data that include cycle thresholds, compiled by officials in Massachusetts, New York and Nevada, up to 90 percent of people testing positive carried barely any virus, a review by The Times found.

On August 27, the United States recorded 45,604 new coronavirus cases, according to a database maintained by The Times. If the rates of contagiousness in Massachusetts and New York were to apply nationwide, then perhaps only 4,500 of those people may actually need to isolate and submit to contact tracing.

The standard for these tests is 30-35 cycles.

• By cycling to 40 times, it means we have positive infection counts that are about 10 times higher than they really are. Any test with a cycle threshold above 35 is too sensitive, agreed Juliet Morrison, a virologist at the University of California, Riverside. “I’m shocked that people would think that 40 could represent a positive,” she said. Epidemiologist Dr. Michael Mina from the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health told The Times that a proper cutoff would be somewhere between 30-35 cycles. That would mean the amount of viral DNA in the sample would have to be 100 to 1,000 times higher to generate a positive result.

So this is, let's go with the vernacular, part of the "hoax".

We've been fed data that infectious cases are currently at 6.04 million when, because of the way this test is being done, may actually only be a little over 600,000.

But it may be even lower: Officials at the Wadsworth Center, New York’s state lab, have access to C.T. values from tests they have processed, and analyzed their numbers at The Times’s request. In July, the lab identified 794 positive tests, based on a threshold of 40 cycles.

With a cutoff of 35, about half of those tests would no longer qualify as positive.

About 70 percent would no longer be judged positive if the cycles were limited to 30.

In Massachusetts, from 85 to 90 percent of people who tested positive in July with a cycle threshold of 40 would have been deemed negative if the threshold were 30 cycles, Dr. Mina said. “I would say that none of those people should be contact-traced, not one,” he said.

Other experts informed of these numbers were stunned.

The virus is most definitely real. The actual case count ... not so much.



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html
 
Wrong. If DC became a state, they would have their own state government. Just because the US capitol is in a state, does not mean that state would have any more powers than any other states. Do try to use your brain!

Maybe you should riot and make your demands known.

Will you rise up?

I am waiting.
 
It wouldn't but what do you, Democrats, or the Left care? It's all about the political power. Doesn't matter about the money, just who controls everything.

Fun fact: DEMOCRATS thought admitting Hawaii would increase Republican strength in Congress. They insisted that Alaska, thought to be a DEMOCRAT hotbed, be admitted first.
 
I don't believe that anywhere near 200,000 Americans died as a result of the Wu Flu.

That wasn't my point. The number for the purposes of what I was responding to are irrelevant. Detractors and haters of Trump are claiming he was the cause of all COVID 19 deaths, which is obviously a delusional fiction or an outright lie.
 
That's all Trump's fault too hum? Which governors imposed shutdowns on their state "following CDC guidelines?" Which governors screwed the pooch by placing sick COVID patients in nursing homes with the most vulnerable but other wise healthy part of our population?

Without shutdowns or mask mandates, how do you stop the spread?

And we could have simply paid everyone to stay home for six weeks. Doing so would have meant open schools and stadiums this fall. Sadly, we can't do any of that safely.

People aren't going to go out if they don't feel safe.
 
Fun fact: DEMOCRATS thought admitting Hawaii would increase Republican strength in Congress. They insisted that Alaska, thought to be a DEMOCRAT hotbed, be admitted first.

Well, the Left has never been about long-term stability of a nation but rather short-term gain. That is, they assess things by What's in it for me?
 
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