Conservatives killed more Americans in last 4 weeks than AQ did last 19 years

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It is illogical to say opposing mail-in balloting means he is considering canceling the election. States can already choose to use mail-in ballots with or without his approval or the crisis. Many states already use mail-in ballots for seniors, disabled, etc.

If you can't go to the polls because of COVID, how are you supposed to vote?
 
We already have mail-in ballots. Trump's opposition is irrelevant--you are making a big deal of nothing.

We are talking about entirely mail-in voting because of the risk of COVID.

The fact that we are even debating this means, what?
 
Presidents get the blame or credit for things like poor economy or other problems.

But you said about three posts ago that they were confident they would win. So why would the economy or other problems even matter? Why wouldn't Trump want mail-in voting?


And, he only got 44% of the popular vote and unless a lot of Democratic voters in 2016 have changed their minds he is still facing a very close election. He has the advantage of being an incumbent president but his approval numbers have never reached 50%.

Right...so the conditions for a loss are there. But if hes confident, why would he not want everyone to vote by mail? The only reason is because he doesn't think he can win, so he would need to not even have the election.


Based on your theory Herbert Hoover, Jimmy Carter, and George H. W. Bush would have canceled their elections because they were going to get beat.

None of those people had already conspired with a foreign nation to rig an election.

In fact, Reagan did just that with Iran in 1980...and it worked.
 
If you can't go to the polls because of COVID, how are you supposed to vote?

We can use mail-in ballots, internet voting, limiting the number of people at the polls at any time, etc. Just because Trump does not like it does not mean states will not choose to do it.

1. You are assuming the virus will still be a problem in Nov
2. Trump thinks he will lose
3. States cannot devise ways to vote
4. Trump thinks he can cancel the election

All are unfounded
 
We already have mail-in ballots. Trump's opposition is irrelevant--you are making a big deal of nothing.

Great! So then there shouldn't be any opposition to an all-mail election, should there?

Why would someone oppose that?

Because they know the result, so they are trying to prevent that result from happening.
 
We can use mail-in ballots, internet voting, limiting the number of people at the polls at any time, etc. Just because Trump does not like it does not mean states will not choose to do it.

Without a clear and consistent message, we will face the exact same problems we face today, with some states adhering to the recommended guidelines and others not.

Leadership is what is needed here, and Trump only knows bad, incompetent leadership.
 
Great! So then there shouldn't be any opposition to an all-mail election, should there?

Why would someone oppose that?

Because they know the result, so they are trying to prevent that result from happening.

Why would they think they are more likely to lose with mail-in ballots but not using current methods?
 
1. You are assuming the virus will still be a problem in Nov

It most definitely will be. In fact, even Fauci's models show a resurgence happening in the fall. The virus will continue to be transmitted, mostly by asymptomatic carriers, until there is a vaccine. People who recovered will get it again, as patients have in China and Europe. So by going to the polls, voters risk another pandemic outbreak and more social distancing.


2. Trump thinks he will lose

You just said four posts ago that he's confident he will win.


3. States cannot devise ways to vote

5 states already do all-mail voting. As do all service members, Americans abroad, and absentee voters. So there's no harm or risk of doing all mail-in, just like millions of Americans already do.


4. Trump thinks he can cancel the election

He absolutely thinks this and the reason he does is because the GOP already provided him cover to rig it.

In 1933, Weimar Germans laughed at the thought of a Chancellor using emergency powers to cancel democracy. But then the Reichstag Fire happened, and the rest is history.
 
Why would they think they are more likely to lose with mail-in ballots but not using current methods?

Because they know that the higher the turnout, the less likely they are to win...and they know that because it's what they saw happen in 2018 and 2019.
 
Great! So then there shouldn't be any opposition to an all-mail election, should there?

Why would someone oppose that?

Because they know the result, so they are trying to prevent that result from happening.

They are not trying to prevent anything. That is your wild conspiracy.
 
They are not trying to prevent anything. That is your wild conspiracy.

The GOP has been trying to suppress votes for decades; now is their best chance to suppress voting for good.

The only reasons to oppose mail-in voting are:

1) You want Americans to get sick and die.
2) You don't want people to vote because of #1.
 
Because they know that the higher the turnout, the less likely they are to win...and they know that because it's what they saw happen in 2018 and 2019.

The higher turnout occurred in 2018 had nothing to do with mail-in ballots but people turning out to vote. 5 states already send ballots to all registered voters. Other states allow seniors, disabled, or others to have mail-in ballots. So anybody less likely to vote because of age, disability, convenience can already vote by mail.

By November we will be able to vote normally.

Don't worry, LV426, nobody is canceling the election.
 
The higher turnout occurred in 2018 had nothing to do with mail-in ballots but people turning out to vote.

OY VEY Flash. Are you being dumb on purpose?

The reason turnout was up in 2018 was because people went to the polls to vote.

So if people are afraid or can't go to the polls to vote this time because of the highly-contagious disease you and the Conservatives helped spread, how are we supposed to have an election at all?
 
5 states already send ballots to all registered voters. Other states allow seniors, disabled, or others to have mail-in ballots. So anybody less likely to vote because of age, disability, convenience can already vote by mail.

Right! Repeating what I said back to me. Thanks.

So what is the harm in having everyone vote by mail so we don't all spread COVID around by 100M+ going to the polls, and have to go through social distancing all over again?
 
On the morning of 4 NOV it will still be Trump.

Hey Democrats, what was Trump doing between 18 DEC 2019 and 5 FEB 2020?

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And that includes 9/11.

Conservative lies about COVID-19 have killed 9,600 Americans so far.

That's more than the number of Americans killed by Al Qaeda on 9/11 (2,977) and the 19 years of War in Afghanistan (2,400) COMBINED.

After today, Conservative lies about COVID-19 will have killed more Americans than the Iraq War, Afghan War, and 9/11 COMBINED.

Every single Conservative is responsible.

No, not all of them. They are dying too. But definitely we need to cut off the heads of the heads, figuratively speaking.
 
By November we will be able to vote normally.

By November, COVID will re-surge and having everyone go out to the polls at the time will spread the disease, cause a spike in cases and deaths, and then force us all to go through social distancing AGAIN.

We know this because it's what Fauci has said.

So we need to have an all-mail election because otherwise, we re-spread the disease.

Flash, I know you're very naive and believe in the goodness of people, but you're a total fool here.
 
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