At Least 1 Dead in Shooting at Texas Church

[LV426]

you're like a windup toy huh?

someone steers off topic and away you go

you're such a tiny mind I'm not sure why you're still here, really

So before, you screeched that I invoked the Nazis, then when you got off your lazy ass to read the thread, you attack me for following your shitty friend down the Hitler rabbit hole.

You could have just not responded to the thread, but you just had to get a dig in at me because of how insecure I make you feel.

Next time, consider drinking a gallon of antifreeze instead.

 

[Micawber]

Once again, check the thread you lazy nobody. Ralph invoked the thread of a government coming after you as an excuse to have a gun.

You're the ones who screech that we need guns to protect from the government...I'm showing you how stupid and childish that excuse is.

You're too lazy to read a thread. What good are you, anyway?

Fuck how dense can they be. They LUB you longtime the 2nd A, and it says "a well armed militia necessary for the security of a free state" yada yada

They hang their hat on a tortured read of those words, and they are saying YOU made the idea up?

It's the whoe rationale for the militia movement and gobmint as enemy meme that caused the OKLA bombing. What, is this news to them now?

 

[Getin the ring]

So before, you screeched that I invoked the Nazis, then when you got off your lazy ass to read the thread, you attack me for following your shitty friend down the Hitler rabbit hole.

You could have just not responded to the thread, but you just had to get a dig in at me because of how insecure I make you feel.

Next time, consider drinking a gallon of antifreeze instead.

so you are like 12 years old? what I thought "why don't you go drink anti freeze"
I heard a 12 year old tell his friend that at a park once

look, if you can't focus, stay out of the thread, simple right?

on topic the church shooting in question would have been much worse, dozens possibly killed if you and nut**bags nation had your way.
That's a hard pill to swallow, but it's the thread topic, so go play somewhere else "go drink anti freeze" boy

 

[LV426]

Fuck how dense can they be. They LUB you longtime the 2nd A, and it says "a well armed militia necessary for the security of a free state" yada yada

They hang their hat on a tortured read of those words, and they are saying YOU made the idea up?

They just want to have guns because their ultimate fantasy is killing those they believe are illegitimate. They want to use their guns to shoot political opponents, other races, other religions, other creeds...they need the gun because it's the only thing that makes them feel secure in an argument.

If you take a sober look at the stats, gun owners have a higher chance of being hurt or killed by a gun than non-gun owners. Also, gun owners have a 100% chance of having their gun stolen by thieves and criminals armed with guns they stole from responsible gun owners vs. a 0% chance a non-gun owners has to have guns stolen from them.

 

[LV426]

so you are like 12 years old? what I thought "why don't you go drink anti freeze"
I heard a 12 year old tell his friend that at a park once

look, if you can't focus, stay out of the thread, simple right?

on topic the church shooting in question would have been much worse, dozens possibly killed if you and nut**bags nation had your way.
That's a hard pill to swallow, but it's the thread topic, so go play somewhere else "go drink anti freeze" boy

See, you just can't let it go. You have a compulsion to respond to prove to me that my arguments aren't totally getting under your thin skin, which they clearly are.

In your mad rush to make yourself feel better for being a loser, you rush through a thread, and then change your point of attack each time you are put in your place.

What a fucking baby.

 

[Micawber]

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If you take a sober look at the stats, gun owners have a higher chance of being hurt or killed by a gun than non-gun owners. ..

I'm OK with their suicide, after consultation with a psychologist. Just use a hollow point bullet and place it in a vice to make sure the job gets done.

 

[LV426]

on topic the church shooting in question would have been much worse,

If there were no guns, the church shooting wouldn't have happened at all.

So saying "it could have been worse" is a tacit admission that it was bad in the first place, and entirely preventable.

But you need to have a gun because it's the only way you think you can win an argument...with the loose threat of your gun. That's because you've never known what it's like to win an argument on the merits of the facts.

 

[Into the Night]

Here we go with the semantics again,

No, that would be YOU. Try English. It works better.

call it what you like, regulate, limit, administer, monitor, control, oversee, handle, etc., whatever works for you

None of these words mean the same thing. Try English. It works better.

So now you are telling us the supposed right to have a gun is an "inherent," certainly what you are implying with the deflection

What deflection? Maybe you don't understand that word either.

And the part of your "agreement" that you are overlooking is the prefatory clause, that which cites the purpose of the following operative clause

What prefatory clause? Maybe you don't understand what 'prefatory' means either.

The 2nd amendment discusses two related rights. Both related to self defense. First, the right of a state to defend itself, as a state. States use militias for that (the Washington State militia currently has 35 members). Second, the right of the individual to defend himself, as an individual. That individual has the right to use any weapon at his disposal for that purpose.

 

[Into the Night]

No, my concern is with that which kills the most the fastest

There is no 'fastest'. Death is death.

 

[Into the Night]

Ah, Stephen Paddock was a good guy with a gun up until he pulled the trigger, which is often the case with mass shooters

Quite true. The moment he pulled the trigger, he was a bad guy. He shot himself before a good guy with a gun could do it (they were trying to break through the door at the time).

 

[LV426]

It's always funny that Into The Night shows up the moment Getin makes an ass of themselves on JPP.

 

[LV426]

I heard a 12 year old tell his friend that at a park once

Bigger question: Why are you, an adult, hanging around 12 year olds at the park?

 

[Into the Night]

No one is denying you the right to defend yourself, how one defends themselves doesn't mean everyone should have a gun

Not everyone has a gun or wants to have a gun. No one is forcing to you buy a gun. YOU don't have the authority to tell people they can't buy a gun.

 

[RB 60]

I'm OK with their suicide, after consultation with a psychologist. Just use a hollow point bullet and place it in a vice to make sure the job gets done.

Why would you place a hollow point bullet in a vise? Or a loaded cartridge with a hollow point bullet in a vise?

 

[Into the Night]

As I asked earlier, cite us hundreds of examples where box trucks were employed to kill people, and by the way, Paddock killed sixty but shot over four hundred, you got a box truck attack that compares?

The McVeigh bombing.

 

[Getin the ring]

Bigger question: Why are you, an adult, hanging around 12 year olds at the park?

MAD

Mothers against drugs

we volunteer at the inner city schools and parks, you will find at least two of us in all parks in and around schools in all daylight hours

I see children like you every day, most of them find somewhere else to peddle their trouble, and some like you like to stay and agitate. but like you they always end up looking like the children they are when the cops show up, they run

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Bigger question: Why are you, an adult, hanging around 12 year olds at the park?

Care to expand on your question??

 

[Into the Night]

the 'right' is to keep and bear ARMS.......whether its a sword or a gun is irrelevant. and your 'prefatory' clause gives the reason WHY we have the right, not a requirement to have the right. Also, NOWHERE in the founders debates will you find any mention that ONLY government regulated and controlled bodies of people are allowed guns.

Not quite. The 2nd amendment discusses to related rights, not one:

1) the right of a state to defend itself as a state (using militias).
2) the right of an individual to defend himself as an individual (using arms).

 

[Micawber]

Bottom line: You want a gun and you don't care about the INEVITABLE deaths that occur because you like your odds of not being a victim.

That is it, 100%. There is NO OTHER EXPLANATION with any meaning at all.

Philosophical ethical question:

If you do something unnecessary and know for a fact 90 people per day will die because of it, are you a murderer?

I'm excluding cops, military and maybe some farmers protecting cattle... Guns are not strictly necessary, and if they were gone
three football stadiums per year would be not dead.

 

[LV426]

MAD

Mothers against drugs

we volunteer at the inner city schools and parks, you will find at least two of us in all parks in and around schools in all daylight hours

I see children like you every day, most of them find somewhere else to peddle their trouble, and some like you like to stay and agitate. but like you they always end up looking like the children they are when the cops show up, they run

^This is weird.