At Least 1 Dead in Shooting at Texas Church

LV426 said:
Take out all gun deaths and the rate would be zero.

Maybe moving goalposts isn't the best strategy here.
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are you just trying to be moronish, or really don't realize it?

If we could snap our fingers and suddenly make ALL guns disappear, count me in.
But we can't, so outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns.

Doe's that not register with you, is there a stopper in the input side of your pea brain?
 
Getin the ring said:
If we could snap our fingers and suddenly make ALL guns disappear, count me in.
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Wait - you're for banning all guns too? Why?


But we can't, so outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns.
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We ban nuclear missiles and no outlaws have them.

There are steps we can take to greatly reduce the number of guns out there, like a meaningful economic stimulus gun buyback program, no questions asked, where anyone can take a gun and turn it into the police and receive a check or cash. Families can sell their guns at above market rates to the government, and use the cash as an economic stimulus. If the feds overpaid for the weapons and made the offer too good to refuse, I think you'd get most -if not all- of the guns out of circulation. The remaining holdouts will see their guns turned over to the police once they have died. In the end, pitting families against each other over guns vs. cash is exactly the conflict this country needs.


Doe's that not register with you, is there a stopper in the input side of your pea brain?
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What registers with me is that you lack the courage, ingenuity, and work ethic to come up with a solution, so your instinct is to just give up because you're a quitter by nature.
 
LV426 said:
I used to think that there was a compromise on gun control.

But after Conservatives' last decade of putting guns over people, I no longer think that is the case.

Now, I think all guns should be banned for civilian and law enforcement purposes.

Society can't seem to be responsible enough to allow gun ownership.
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Does anyone think it strange that another fascist socialist is against the US CONSTITUTION and its RULE OF LAW? What compromise? The 2nd amendment is clear......THE PEOPLE have a right to bear arms to protect against threats, BOTH FOREIGN and "DOMESTIC".

All fascists 1st move is to disarm the public......its left in front of controlling the education of our children. This is nothing new......The German Socialist Party known as the NAZIS used this tactic ad nauseam.

Look on the bright side....even morons have a right to free speech and their personal opinion, its called the 1st amendment. Ain't the US a grand republic?
 
I think Trump* morons are missing the point.

Three people die, and it was guns.

Oh another point, one of the perps was a poor deranged loser with a rap sheet, a clear victim of Reago-Trumpanomics.

When the country is awash in guns and insane loser socio-economic outcasts this shit is a side effect. Predictable as a Trump*tard
hooting at a rally.
 
Ralph said:
Does anyone think it strange that another fascist socialist is against the US CONSTITUTION and its RULE OF LAW? What compromise? The 2nd amendment is clear......THE PEOPLE have a right to bear arms to protect against threats, BOTH FOREIGN and "DOMESTIC".
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That is not what the 2A says.

But it doesn't matter. We've displayed that as a society, we are too irresponsible to own guns. That's just a fact. More gun deaths here than any other first world nation. And the people aren't any safer than they are anywhere else. In fact, no where else do people have to fear being shot in public places.


All fascists 1st move is to disarm the public......its left in front of controlling the education of our children. This is nothing new......The German Socialist Party known as the NAZIS used this tactic ad nauseam.
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Actually, the Nazis disarmed certain groups that they wanted to target. The Nazis didn't disarm the public, just certain groups.

But you know that, of course. You're just choosing to pretend you don't as an exercise in sophistry.
 
volsrock said:
Try to figure out why that is?

Take suicides out and Black Gang Bang killings and the rate would be low
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:lolup:

The always predictable “well, take out this or that....” bullshit.

Sorry punk. You don’t get to cherry pick until you get the answer you want.

GUN DEATH RATE, dumbfuck. Highest in westernized cultures.

Why is that? The answer is obvious except to you brain dead barrel strokers.
 
LV426 said:
That is not what the 2A says.

But it doesn't matter. We've displayed that as a society, we are too irresponsible to own guns. That's just a fact. More gun deaths here than any other first world nation. And the people aren't any safer than they are anywhere else. In fact, no where else do people have to fear being shot in public places.




Actually, the Nazis disarmed certain groups that they wanted to target. The Nazis didn't disarm the public, just certain groups.

But you know that, of course. You're just choosing to pretend you don't as an exercise in sophistry.
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Again...….is it surprising a social fascist is against the Constitutional Rule of Law? All fascists like the socialist NAZI party.....removed the people's means of self protection and reserved arms for THE STATE. Just like the NAZIs....you are attempting to use "propaganda" to ignore the RULE OF LAW. Come back when you have the required 2/3 super majority to rescind the 2nd amendment.

The problem with propaganda? It can't be documented like facts in evidence. Hitler's socialist party started by disarming the Jews and then ultimately......not only were arms removed, free speech and other human rights were removed as Hitler reserved the right to make laws himself. Truth: The NAZI party reserved the authority to issue permits for firearm ownership to those loyal to the NAZI party. You appear to have no problem with declaring JEWS as being less than human and having no state rights.

Does that surprise me? Of course not.....fascism is as fascism does. :bigthink: What happened to anyone opposed to the NAZIs? They were lined up and shot by the socialist NAZI PARTY.


You think you can remove the weapons from US CITIZENS and have THE STATE the only authority to have legal rights to bear arms? Really? You can't see the forest for the trees......that OPINION is why the 2nd amendment was ratified. The people reserve the right to a well armed militia.....to protect against all threats....even a rouge Central Government.
 
Ralph said:
Again...….is it surprising a social fascist is against the Constitutional Rule of Law? All fascists like the socialist NAZI party.....removed the people's means of self protection and reserved arms for THE STATE. Just like the NAZIs....you are attempting to use "propaganda" to ignore the RULE OF LAW. Come back when you have the required 2/3 super majority to rescind the 2nd amendment.
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Again, the Nazis targeted specific groups, not the entire population.

You need a guided tour of this place, because you don't know what you're talking about: https://www.ushmm.org/
 
Ralph said:
Hitler's socialist party started by disarming the Jews and then ultimately......not only were arms removed, free speech and other human rights were removed as Hitler reserved the right to make laws himself.
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Right, so just as I said before, he disarmed Jews but not the rest of the population. So after saying something demonstrably wrong, you then try to seize upon the point I made to make it one of yours.

You've never done anything for yourself in your entire life, have you?
 
Ralph said:
Truth: The NAZI party reserved the authority to issue permits for firearm ownership to those loyal to the NAZI party. You appear to have no problem with declaring JEWS as being less than human and having no state rights.
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So just like I said before, Hitler didn't disarm the entire German population, just the groups he was targeting.

And Trump just put out an executive order declaring Judiasm its own nationality. So it would seem you're the one who wants to set up the takeaway of their rights by declaring them not US citizens.
 
Ralph said:
What happened to anyone opposed to the NAZIs? They were lined up and shot by the socialist NAZI PARTY.
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You're such an ignoramus, it's so easy to smack you down.

1. Hitler didn't start the Final Solution until 1942. Dachau opened in 1933. So they didn't line people up and shoot them to start; they took their rights away and held them indefinitely in places like Dachau where they were tortured and denied due process because they were declared enemies of the state. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about and it's embarrassing to read.

2. Saying the Nazis were socialist because they had socialist in their party name is like saying buffalo wings are made of buffalo because "buffalo" is in the name. Do you think that North Korea is democratic because they call it the Democratic People's Republic of Korea? Stop being a sophist. It doesn't make anyone respect you. It just makes everyone hate you and want to isolate and marginalize you. Maybe that's what you want, though...that way you can pretend to be a victim, which seems to be what you really want.
 
LV426 said:
You're such an ignoramus, it's so easy to smack you down.

1. Hitler didn't start the Final Solution until 1942. Dachau opened in 1933. So they didn't line people up and shoot them to start; they took their rights away and held them indefinitely in places like Dachau where they were tortured and denied due process because they were declared enemies of the state. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about and it's embarrassing to read.

2. Saying the Nazis were socialist because they had socialist in their party name is like saying buffalo wings are made of buffalo because "buffalo" is in the name. Do you think that North Korea is democratic because they call it the Democratic People's Republic of Korea? Stop being a sophist. It doesn't make anyone respect you. It just makes everyone hate you and want to isolate and marginalize you. Maybe that's what you want, though...that way you can pretend to be a victim, which seems to be what you really want.
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somehow LVnutBAGS started talking about Hitler in a church shooting thread

your focus is dead on arrival huh tiny? :rofl2:
 
Ralph said:
You think you can remove the weapons from US CITIZENS and have THE STATE the only authority to have legal rights to bear arms? Really? You can't see the forest for the trees......that OPINION is why the 2nd amendment was ratified. The people reserve the right to a well armed militia.....to protect against all threats....even a rouge Central Government.
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LOL!

1. Your shitty little AR-15 isn't going to stop a government armed with drones, gunships, SEALs, and nuclear warheads from doing what it wants.

2. I'm not talking about removing weapons, I'm talking about offering cash for the guns which will pit families against themselves. Throw an ungodly overpayment for guns into the equation and you'll get the kind of family separation that I support. When push comes to shove, if a family needs a few grand to pay down debt, bills, or whatever, they're going to weigh those needs vs. the gun. 9/10 the needs will win out over the gun. Then, when the holdouts die off -which they will- their guns are just surrendered to the authorities (no cash for the families then; you missed out on the buyback, you don't get a second chance.)

3. With all rights, there are limitations, and gun owners have proven there are limits to their responsibility; for instance, the fact that almost 200,000 guns are stolen from "responsible gun owners" and retailers every year. After 10 years, that's 2 million stolen guns just floating around. That's too much risk. Y'all ammosexuals have proven over and over that you cannot be trusted with the heavy responsibility of gun ownership. And if you can't be responsible for guns, then no one can.
 
Getin the ring said:
o now the government is coming to get us?

you're a special breed of clown, you know that right?
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Once again, check the thread you lazy nobody. Ralph invoked the thread of a government coming after you as an excuse to have a gun.

You're the ones who screech that we need guns to protect from the government...I'm showing you how stupid and childish that excuse is.

You're too lazy to read a thread. What good are you, anyway?
 
LV426 said:
Once again, check the thread you lazy nobody. Ralph invoked the thread of a government coming after you as an excuse to have a gun.



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you're like a windup toy huh?

someone steers off topic and away you go :rofl2:

you're such a tiny mind I'm not sure why you're still here, really
 
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