End of Donald Trump 2020

Socialism sucks wherever it's been tried, and according to this: https://www.governmentvs.com/en/plutocratic-countries/model-49-4
your "Plutocracy" is not present in this country, so I don't know where you're going with this. Are you saying we've elected rich people to high political office for almost 250 years and poor people are still poor, so it's time to elect a poor bastard to straighten it all out? Or is this a case of the lesser of two evils for you? Take it from me, that don't work either. I voted for McCain in '08

Plutocracy does not exist, you say, Then how do you explain the income and wealth disparity????
 
Plutocracy does not exist, you say, Then how do you explain the income and wealth disparity????

Easy. It's another made up socialist, 1st world "problem" that I don't concern myself with. Who is doing the most griping about this bullshit? Instant gratification millennials, "professional" service industry workers, and socialist politicians. What do you and they want to do about this "problem"?
 
Hello ThatOwlWoman,

And let's not forget crushing student loan debt, medical expenses, and stagnant wages.

The Class War is waged in so many ways it is hard to even state them all. Some are blatant, others are far more subtle and difficult to even recognize. That's by design. What better way to wage a war on the lower classes than to convince them they are not being oppressed? Convincing them instead that rich and greedy power junkies want to help them makes the oppression easy. If somebody doesn't even admit they are being attacked they most certainly won't fight back.
 
The Class War is waged in so many ways it is hard to even state them all. Some are blatant, others are far more subtle and difficult to even recognize. That's by design. What better way to wage a war on the lower classes than to convince them they are not being oppressed? Convincing them instead that rich and greedy power junkies want to help them makes the oppression easy. If somebody doesn't even admit they are being attacked they most certainly won't fight back.

Another president knew that quite well. President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
 
What is worst socialism or Plutocracy?????

A good question. The typical Trumpanzee/Reichwinger will always go for the Plutocracy because there's always the hope that if a RWer just works hard enough, he too can be as wealthy as they are... and we wouldn't want to tax all that hard work, would we? :rolleyes:

Whereas socialism is evil because it puts everyone on a fairly equal basis where none of us have to worry about affording medical treatment, paying off student loans, how-can-I-afford-to-pay-the-firefighters-to-save-my-burning-house, public education, clean water/air/food/medications, libraries, roads, bridges, etc.

See -- if you are lucky enough to have a job that offers affordable health insurance premiums, you can look down on your neighbor whose job doesn't offer squat. *Your* kid gets x-rays, expert medical care, and a really cool neon cast when he falls off his bike and breaks his arm. That neighbor's kid? Two sticks and some vet wrap.
 
Another president knew that quite well. President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

LBJ was a teacher b4 he was a politician
 
Easy. It's another made up socialist, 1st world "problem" that I don't concern myself with. Who is doing the most griping about this bullshit? Instant gratification millennials, "professional" service industry workers, and socialist politicians. What do you and they want to do about this "problem"?

You missed wealthy who cry like babies. You missed Southerners and miners who weep about who they think they are cheated by the Liberal north. Trump is the biggest griper in the world. Complaining about how you are not getting a fair shake is the human condition. But Trump wins the griping contest.
 
Hello ThatOwlWoman,

That's terrifying. I always thought he was a rancher for some reason.

There was a heart in there. He taught mixed race classes in Texas and was determined that black people deserved all the rights of white people. He did sign off on Civil Rights.

That's the thing about politics and power. People with a good heart can be corrupted.

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
 
Hello ThatOwlWoman,



There was a heart in there. He taught mixed race classes in Texas and was determined that black people deserved all the rights of white people. He did sign off on Civil Rights.

That's the thing about politics and power. People with a good heart can be corrupted.

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

An interesting take. I heard for years how against the Civil Rights Act he was. I believe he also predicted that if it passed the (D)s would lose the South forever.
 
Hello ThatOwlWoman,

An interesting take. I heard for years how against the Civil Rights Act he was. I believe he also predicted that if it passed the (D)s would lose the South forever.

As with so many things there is no simple answer to explaining that complex mindset.

The Great Society, the next biggest expansion of the safety net and government assistance programs to The New Deal, was all LBJ's idea.
 
"In 1926, Johnson managed to enroll at SWTSTC (now Texas State University). He worked his way through school, participated in debate and campus politics, and edited the school newspaper, The College Star.[21] The college years refined his skills of persuasion and political organization. For nine months, from 1928 to 1929, Johnson paused his studies to teach Mexican–American children at the segregated Welhausen School in Cotulla, some 90 miles (140 km) south of San Antonio in La Salle County. The job helped him to save money to complete his education and he graduated in 1930. He briefly taught at Pearsall High School before taking a position as teacher of public speaking at Sam Houston High School in Houston.

When he returned to San Marcos in 1965, after signing the Higher Education Act of 1965, Johnson reminisced:

" I shall never forget the faces of the boys and the girls in that little Welhausen Mexican School, and I remember even yet the pain of realizing and knowing then that college was closed to practically every one of those children because they were too poor. And I think it was then that I made up my mind that this nation could never rest while the door to knowledge remained closed to any American." "

-wiki
 
Hello ThatOwlWoman,



As with so many things there is no simple answer to explaining that complex mindset.

The Great Society, the next biggest expansion of the safety net and government assistance programs to The New Deal, was all LBJ's idea.
Yes, Snowflake, the War on Poverty was a multi-trillion dollar failure...admitted by the left as a failure.
 
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