Surrender monkey in chief.

I've already explained my position.
Syrian Kurdistan would remain a part of Syria, like Iraqi Kurdistan is a part of Iraq, and be recognized in the Syrian Constitution.

"The Constitution of the Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria,[1][2] officially titled Charter of the Social Contract, is the provisional constitution of the self-proclaimed autonomous region of Syria known as the Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria. It was adopted on 29 January 2014, when the Democratic Union Party (PYD), claiming to represent the population of the autonomous region, declared the three regions it controls autonomous from the Syrian government.[1] Article 12 states the autonomous region remains an "integral part of Syria", tentatively implementing an expected future federal Syrian governance in Northern Syria.[3]
The constitution has gained much international attention and is most noted for its explicit affirmation of minority rights and gender equality and a form of direct democracy known as 'democratic confederalism'.[4][5]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_North_and_East_Syria
pie in the sky.
but I'm not talking abut a Kurdish state i'm talking about WHEN YOU WANT THE U.S. OUT OF SYRIA
*crickets*
 
Trump surrendered the Kurds to the Turks overnight.

Obama surrendered Iraq to ISIS and then called them JV. Did that upset you as well? Of course not. You were all in to disengage from the ME during Obamunism. You whiny hypocrite. :rolleyes:
 
pie in the sky.
but I'm not talking abut a Kurdish state i'm talking about WHEN YOU WANT THE U.S. OUT OF SYRIA
*crickets*

I don't know how I can state my answer ANY clearer.

Assad wants his Syria back in one piece.
Russia wants a Syrian Base.
Syrian Kurdistan (land east of the Euphrates) wants an autonomous region for themselves.

All can be accomplished with an arrangement like that in Iraq. The Kurdish region 'recognized' in the Syrian Constitution.
Once THAT is in place, the Americans can leave.
 
"The Kurds were instrumental in our successful fight against ISIS, leaving them to die is a huge mistake." - Nikki Haley.

"The analogy we use around here sometimes, and I think is accurate, is if a jayvee team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesn't make them Kobe Bryant," Obama said, resorting to an uncharacteristically flip analogy. "I think there is a distinction between the capacity and reach of a bin Laden and a network that is actively planning major terrorist plots against the homeland versus jihadists who are engaged in various local power struggles and disputes, often sectarian."
 
no he didn't

let's see some proof of that

"The analogy we use around here sometimes, and I think is accurate, is if a jayvee team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesn't make them Kobe Bryant," Obama said, resorting to an uncharacteristically flip analogy. "I think there is a distinction between the capacity and reach of a bin Laden and a network that is actively planning major terrorist plots against the homeland versus jihadists who are engaged in various local power struggles and disputes, often sectarian."
 
Trump sent the White Flag into SYRIA today, and left our allies to fight alone.

"The analogy we use around here sometimes, and I think is accurate, is if a jayvee team puts on Lakers uniforms that doesn't make them Kobe Bryant," Obama said, resorting to an uncharacteristically flip analogy. "I think there is a distinction between the capacity and reach of a bin Laden and a network that is actively planning major terrorist plots against the homeland versus jihadists who are engaged in various local power struggles and disputes, often sectarian."
 
pie in the sky.
but I'm not talking abut a Kurdish state i'm talking about WHEN YOU WANT THE U.S. OUT OF SYRIA
*crickets*

"An official with the main Kurdish-led force in Syria said on Sunday the Kurdish people were not represented on the constitutional committee in charge of drafting a new Syrian constitution."
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/syrian-kurds-criticise-envoy-committee-190929161609096.html

"His comments came in light of a UN document released on Saturday showing in addition to amending Syria's current constitution or writing a new one, the committee was mandated to organise "free-and-fair elections" in the country under the supervision of the world body once the constitution was drafted."

"A first meeting of the committee, which took almost two years to negotiate, has been scheduled for October 30 in Geneva."
 
I don't know how I can state my answer ANY clearer.

Assad wants his Syria back in one piece.
Russia wants a Syrian Base.
Syrian Kurdistan (land east of the Euphrates) wants an autonomous region for themselves.

All can be accomplished with an arrangement like that in Iraq. The Kurdish region 'recognized' in the Syrian Constitution.
Once THAT is in place, the Americans can leave.
that's clear i give you that.
So you want us to nation-build like we did in Afghanistan.. clearly that is a bad idea

Syria is a basket case -simply declaring an autonomous region doesn't make it so .
what do you want to do when Iran doesn't want to leave? that is their sphere of influence

Plus you got Turkey absolutely opposed and will never let the Kurds be autonomous

when that happens -what happens to our troops there?
 
"An official with the main Kurdish-led force in Syria said on Sunday the Kurdish people were not represented on the constitutional committee in charge of drafting a new Syrian constitution."
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/09/syrian-kurds-criticise-envoy-committee-190929161609096.html

"His comments came in light of a UN document released on Saturday showing in addition to amending Syria's current constitution or writing a new one, the committee was mandated to organise "free-and-fair elections" in the country under the supervision of the world body once the constitution was drafted."

"A first meeting of the committee, which took almost two years to negotiate, has been scheduled for October 30 in Geneva."
^so much for an autonomous region..
I actually agree the Kurds deserve a full state -but they won't get it and an autonomous zone isn't enforceable either
 
that's clear i give you that.
So you want us to nation-build like we did in Afghanistan.. clearly that is a bad idea

Syria is a basket case -simply declaring an autonomous region doesn't make it so .
what do you want to do when Iran doesn't want to leave? that is their sphere of influence

Plus you got Turkey absolutely opposed and will never let the Kurds be autonomous

when that happens -what happens to our troops there?

Did you say the same thing when Iraqi Kurdistan wanted an autonomous region?

"Iraqi Kurdistan or Southern Kurdistan[1] (Kurdish: باشووری کوردستان‎, romanized: Başûrê Kurdistanê) is the Kurdish-populated region incorporated into Iraq and considered by Kurds as one of four parts of Greater Kurdistan.[2] Much of the geographical and cultural region of Iraqi Kurdistan is governed by the Kurdistan Region (KRI) (Kurdish: هه*رێمی کوردستان‎, romanized: Herêmî Kurdistan) which is an autonomous region recognized by the Iraqi constitution.[3]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Kurdistan

Dukkha. You don't have to re-invent the wheel here. It's already a functioning Reality in neighboring Iraq.
 
Cowardly chicken shit Cadet Bone Spurs, lap dog of dictators and autocrats, shows his supine yellow belly once again and abandons allies of the USA. Get this spineless jelly fish of an imposter traitor the ef out of the people's house already!
 
^so much for an autonomous region..
I actually agree the Kurds deserve a full state -but they won't get it and an autonomous zone isn't enforceable either

:) hahaha ...
You are very negative. This isn't difficult to solve.
I'll let you take the side of the Authoritarians and list all the things that can never happen.
 
Did you say the same thing when Iraqi Kurdistan wanted an autonomous region?

"Iraqi Kurdistan or Southern Kurdistan[1] (Kurdish: باشووری کوردستان‎, romanized: Başûrê Kurdistanê) is the Kurdish-populated region incorporated into Iraq and considered by Kurds as one of four parts of Greater Kurdistan.[2] Much of the geographical and cultural region of Iraqi Kurdistan is governed by the Kurdistan Region (KRI) (Kurdish: هه*رێمی کوردستان‎, romanized: Herêmî Kurdistan) which is an autonomous region recognized by the Iraqi constitution.[3]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Kurdistan

Dukkha. You don't have to re-invent the wheel here. It's already a functioning Reality in neighboring Iraq.
Because the Peshmerga filled in the power gap when the Iraqi's left.

I don't know if there is a written agreement in Iraq ( Constitution), but the problem AS ALWAYS is Turkey is hostile to ANY Kurds self government.

Plus you have the Iranians who want an unstable Syria -that allows them to fill the power vacuum
with their Quds.

I mean go for it if you can ever get a stable region backed by the players - but that is not what we are doing in Syria and not going to happen with the small fore we had their until today. The US can't do anything but be a sitting duck
 
Can you imagine the outrage if Obama had betrayed the Kurds and handed them over to the Turks?

President Obama would not have been President had he not shown his tax returns.

America would have been in an uproar.
 
:) hahaha ...
You are very negative. This isn't difficult to solve.
I'll let you take the side of the Authoritarians and list all the things that can never happen.
it's a non-starter. I give you credit for thinking of it, but Syria isn't capable of keeping an autonomous zone if both Iran and Turkey dont want it ( and they dont)
 
--->Couldn't have said it better<---

It's what he is. He's a traitor and if the separation of powers cannot rid us of him expediently, I hope he suffers a major stroke soon. He's a monster and I do not wish him a quick demise. He is opening up the Kurds who fought ISIS to slaughter.
 
"McConnell warns Trump against withdrawing U.S. forces from northern Syria
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) also urged the president to “exercise American leadership.” In a rare show of bipartisanship, congressional Republicans and Democrats largely were unified in criticizing Trump's move."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/



Because the Peshmerga filled in the power gap when the Iraqi's left.

I don't know if there is a written agreement in Iraq ( Constitution), but the problem AS ALWAYS is Turkey is hostile to ANY Kurds self government.

Plus you have the Iranians who want an unstable Syria -that allows them to fill the power vacuum
with their Quds.

I mean go for it if you can ever get a stable region backed by the players - but that is not what we are doing in Syria and not going to happen with the small fore we had their until today. The US can't do anything but be a sitting duck
 
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