A great first step to ending Abortion!

Wolverine said:
YOU ARE WRONG! And disgusting, you should be ashamed of yourself! I suspect you had an abortion, and so must defend it. Turn to Jesus for forgiveness, and embrace life.
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All just because you want to believe so?

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Mr.Badguy said:
"Why do you value human life as an adult, as a teenager, as a pre-teenager, as a child, as a toddler, as an infant, but NOT as a fetus, embryo, or a zygote"

Because the former has higher brain function and the latter doesn't? Because the former doesn't require the use of another person's body functions to survive and the latter does?
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Purest denial. Among other things, atheism isn't a religion. It is a rejection of the logical fallacy of religion.

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rjhenn said:
My thought is that homosexuality was probably condemned because homosexual relationships don't produce offspring, and a primitive warlike society depends on a constant supply of warm bodies for its survival.
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Good point, although the ancient Greeks didn't have the same issues with it. In fact, some historical accounts claim that they held male-male love in higher regard than they did male-female love. It seems like a lot of those Biblical proscriptions had more to do with health and/or practicality than they did with religious reasons. But what's the thing about mixing fibers in clothing? That one I can't figure out.
 
rjhenn said:
All just because you want to believe so?

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Because of common decency which you do not have! You can dress up human life as zygote fetus or clumo of cells it does change the fact that what you are murdering is a human life. Were it a bag full of puppies,(I love puppies) you libs would lose your mind, but in fairness puppies are not humans!
 
rjhenn said:
The Exodus verse demonstrates that the fetus has no right to life and has no value except to the parents. The other verse demonstrates, again that the fetus has no right to life and that there's no biblical prohibition against abortion.

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Negative you are supposing miscarriage results in death, it does not have to, a premature birth does not automatically mean death. Try again ghoul!
 
rjhenn said:
You are deep in bullshit.

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rjhenn said:
You're just proving
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Not a proof... learn what a proof is...

rjhenn said:
that religion depends entirely on the absence of evidence.
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WRONG. Religion depends on faith.

rjhenn said:
Reason itself for any rational being to avoid it.
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You are incapable of avoiding it, however... ALL humans make use of religion... EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. of them... You are not an exception... Humans are religious animals...
 
rjhenn said:
The Exodus verse demonstrates that the fetus has no right to life and has no value except to the parents. The other verse demonstrates, again that the fetus has no right to life and that there's no biblical prohibition against abortion.

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The Exodus verse doesn't say that at all, and the other one you didn't narrow down enough so I'm not sure where you are pulling that idea from...
 
rjhenn said:
You clearly have no idea what "judicial" means. You are steeped in dogma and are unable to deal with reality.

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I call this the "you don't understand" mantra, one of many mantras which I ignore on sight since it makes no argument...

I explained quite clearly in that comment what 'judicial power' means, according to the US Constitution. It has NOTHING to do with interpreting the Constitution.
 
gfm7175 said:
It pays attention to both, actually... I think you are operating under much different definitions that I am for those words.

Religion is NOT theism, although theism is a part of what religion entails. Religion is best defined as "an initial circular argument with other arguments stemming from it". A circular argument (ie, "circular reasoning") is best defined as "an argument which concludes with its initial predicate".

A fact is an assumed predicate. That's all a fact is. Facts are meant to speed up conversation, as arguments don't have to be formed about a predicate which is already agreed upon.

Evidence is "any statement which supports an argument". Thus evidence is, essentially, a predicate.

Hopefully those definitions make it clearer as to the logic behind how those things all relate to each other...


Faith is not mindless. It requires a mind to formulate it and to accept/reject it.

Faith is simply another word for circular reasoning, as I have defined above.

Your belief that no god(s) exist is dependent entirely upon "mindless" faith... It is a religious belief. You criticize precisely what you YOURSELF are doing...
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rjhenn said:
You point out that religion is a logical fallacy, then complain about those that don't fall for your fallacy.
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Circular reasoning is NOT always fallacious... In fact, circular reasoning in and of itself is a logically valid form of reasoning, since its conclusion follows from its predicate(s). Circular reasoning only becomes fallacious if one tries to prove it.

[1] Do you not use your memory to validate your memory?
[2] Do you not use your reasoning skills to validate your reasoning skills?

These are examples of circular reasoning that we regularly make use of in our day to day lives... Are we acting fallaciously?
 
rjhenn said:
You have your own dogmatic beliefs about all of that.

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Inversion Fallacy. YOU are the one with the dogmatic beliefs... I have provided detailed definitions for all those words, and shown why those definitions are sound definitions... YOU have yet to make counterarguments nor provide better definitions for those words...
 
rjhenn said:
And God performs abortions all the time. But we don't call them that. Instead, we call them miscarriages.

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there are no gods or monsters


Your religion is not allowed to FORCE people to follow it



BTW you just said god approves of abortion
 
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