A great first step to ending Abortion!

TOP said:
So, an unborn child doesn't have any rights at all, in any state? ‘
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Yup, that's her argument. She's being serious about it.

Apparently, an unborn child only counts as a child if the mother wants it, but it does not count as a child if the mother doesn't want it. "Desire" or "want", contrary to science, can supposedly change a child into a non-child... can supposedly change a life into a non-life... can supposedly change a life into a void.

An example is when someone murders a pregnant woman and gets charged with double homicide. Why does that unborn child count as another person in that case, but not count as a person in the case of abortion? The difference is "want"... In one case, the child is "wanted"... In the other case, the child is not wanted. What I want to know is how does "want" magickally change a life into a void?
 
evince said:
there would never be another abortion if all men snip sniped and then reversed when they wanted babies



its not so easy for women huh idiot


yet your stupid fucking ass wants to put ALL THE BLAME ON WOMEN
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Use the quote button sugar so we no who you are addressing, I never put all the blame on the women, but they are the only ones who get a choice in the matter.
 
you don't own others bodies and have no right to tell them what to do with their bodies medically



you control the ONE body in habit


face reality
 
Wolverine said:
Once conception occurs it is equally both people, the she carries it is B.S, it empowers women to play God!
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dear fucking idiot,


in your theory god made the choice already


God gave every woman their womb

God gave you a penis instead



God did not trust you enough to give you a womb


he gave it to someone else who had a better soul than you



Now you want to second guess Gods decision?


fuck you very much


even your own god didn't give you the equipment to make the choice
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Here are some interesting statistics on the rate of abortion on Guttmacher.

"The highest annual rate of abortion in 2010–2014 was in the Caribbean, estimated at 59 per 1,000 women of reproductive age, followed by South America, at 48. The lowest rates were in Northern America, at 17, and in Western and Northern Europe—at 16 and 18, respectively.

• Across all world subregions, Eastern Europe experienced the largest decline in its abortion rate, from 88 per 1,000 in 1990–1994 to 42 per 1,000 in 2010–2014, which corresponded with an increase in access to modern contraceptives following the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

• As of 2010–2014, the overall abortion rate in Africa is 34 per 1,000 women. Subregional rates range from 31 in Western Africa to 38 in Northern Africa; abortion rates in these subregions have changed little or not at all since 1990–1994.

• In Latin America and the Caribbean, subregional abortion rates range from 33 in Central America to 48 in South America to 59 in the Caribbean. The overall regional rate has hardly changed since 1990–1994.

• In Asia, the average abortion rate is 36 per 1,000 women. Most subregional rates are close to this figure; Central Asia is higher at 42. The regional rate has changed little since 1990–1994."

(Source: https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-worldwide)

It's interesting that in countries with access to health care, information, and most of all contraceptives the lowest rates occur, whereas in other countries (note the high incidence in predominantly-Catholic Latin America) they have the highest rates.
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It really underscores the idea that there are all sorts of ways people could lower the abortion rate that don't require hijacking our criminal law to punish women. Yet, tellingly, the right-wingers never focus on those other options.
 
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