Trump/Kim talks to continue

Earl said:
Indeed!
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Pays to keep the lefties Trump narrative in mind.

Trump was supposed to start a global conflagration over Kim and his nukes. Instead, real peace on the Korean Peninsula is plausible. Trump has yet to pull a Libya and is doing his best to pull out of Syria and Afghanistan.

That narrative is garbage.
 
Stretch said:
No deal is better than a bad deal; progress was made and talks will continue.
Major sticking point seemed to be sanctions; Kim wanted all lifted; plus there were some specifics regarding exact locations of de-nuking.
When ya gotta walk, ya gotta walk. :thumbsup:

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Talks between President Trump and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un wrapped up significantly earlier than expected on Thursday, and the White House announced that no agreement had been reached between the leaders.

"No agreement was reached at this time, but their respective teams look forward to meeting in the future," White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said in a statement.

Still, Sanders described the meetings between Trump and Kim as "very good and constructive."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kim-open-denuclearization-trump-good-progress-summit
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I'm sure you RWers are extremely pleased as well to learn that Kim had nothing to do with the hideous treatment and death of Otto Wambler. None. He said so, and Twittler believes him. Case closed.
 
Darth Beto Omar said:
Pays to keep the lefties Trump narrative in mind.

Trump was supposed to start a global conflagration over Kim and his nukes. Instead, real peace on the Korean Peninsula is plausible. Trump has yet to pull a Libya and is doing his best to pull out of Syria and Afghanistan.

That narrative is garbage.
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The Libya model haunts this process -why Kim wants to keep some nukes.
Another Obama fuck up that lives on, and Libya is still a horror show ( terrorist infested militia rule)
 
anatta said:
The Libya model haunts this process -why Kim wants to keep some nukes.
Another Obama fuck up that lives on, and Libya is still a horror show ( terrorist infested militia rule)
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Sad, RW diversion to avoid recognizing ANOTHER Orangetweet failure. :rofl2:
 
Yurt said:
LOL, probably the only net net to come out of this disaster. Trump blew it big time. Unless he has something up his sleeve, I don't see how Trump did America any good.
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Gads we agree, again, twice in one week, it must be a record.
 
Even Democrats in Congress are cheering Trump for walking away from talks with Kim Jong Un

Jacob Pramuk | @jacobpramuk
Published 1 Hour Ago Updated 15 Mins Ago
CNBC


Congressional leaders — including Democrats — broadly praised President Donald Trump for walking away from his second summit with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un on Thursday.

Talks in Vietnam between Trump and Kim abruptly ended Thursday before a planned lunch and signing ceremony for some kind of agreement. Trump said he cut the summit short because the sides could not come to terms on whether to remove sanctions on North Korea as they seek a path to Pyongyang's denuclearization.

"Sometimes you have to walk, and this was just one of those times," the U.S. president said during a news conference following the summit.

Congressional leaders — including Democrats — broadly praised President Donald Trump for walking away from his second summit with North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un on Thursday.

Talks in Vietnam between Trump and Kim abruptly ended Thursday before a planned lunch and signing ceremony for some kind of agreement. Trump said he cut the summit short because the sides could not come to terms on whether to remove sanctions on North Korea as they seek a path to Pyongyang's denuclearization.

"Sometimes you have to walk, and this was just one of those times," the U.S. president said during a news conference following the summit.

Congressional leaders largely cheered Trump for backing out of talks instead of agreeing to unfavorable terms. Democrats in particular said they had worried about the president striking an inadequate deal — in part to alleviate pressure created by his former lawyer Michael Cohen's explosive Capitol Hill testimony on Wednesday.

"I was pleased to see the president recognize North Korea's unwillingness to strike a comprehensive deal," Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said on the Senate floor Thursday. "President Trump did the right thing by walking away and not cutting a poor deal for the sake of a photo op. ... I've always been concerned about the possibility of a bad deal, especially with the other pressures currently on the president."

While House Speaker Nancy Pelosi declared Kim "the big winner" for getting two face-to-face meetings with the U.S. president, she praised Trump for walking away on Thursday. The California Democrat told reporters "it's good that the president did not give him anything for the little that he was proposing."

Trump has pushed North Korea to give up its nuclear weapons, touting the economic benefits the repressive country could see if the U.S. and international community ease sanctions. Kim is reluctant to give up nuclear weapons and the leverage they give him.

Trump hopes to notch a signature foreign policy achievement by pushing North Korea to denuclearize. He also wants to show he could accomplish what his predecessor President Barack Obama could not. Trump has repeatedly claimed the U.S. was on the brink of war with Pyongyang before he took office, although Obama administration veterans dispute this characterization.

But Trump's clamoring for a deal did not drive him to accept one Thursday. The president said he "would not have been happy about" any agreement that would have come out of the leaders' second summit.

"Basically, they wanted the sanctions lifted in their entirety and we couldn't do that," Trump said. "They were willing to denuke a large portion of the areas that we wanted, but we couldn't give up all of the sanctions for that. So we continue to work and we'll see, but we had to walk away from that particular suggestion. We had to walk away from that."

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell called it "smart" to meet Kim in Singapore and in Vietnam to show him the "economic prosperity" possible if North Korea abandons its nuclear and missile programs. He added that the "president should be commended for walking away when it became clear insufficient progress has been made on denuclearization."

In a tweeted statement, Trump confidant Sen. Lindsey Graham said "it's better to walk away than sign a bad deal."


Lindsey Graham
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@LindseyGrahamSC

I appreciate the effort by President @realDonaldTrump to reach a peaceful conclusion to the North Korean nuclear threat.

It’s better to walk away than sign a bad deal.
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10:05 AM - Feb 28, 2019
 
maybe Trump could cut a deal that Kim can just send small Nukes , targeting Blue states only being liberals want negotiations to fail so badly.

win win
 
If Trump had diplomats working on NK, then there would be no surprises. They could have ongoing discussions. The table could have bee set and Trump could have had a real conference. But Trump in not serious about governing. He saw this as a Trump avchievement that could be achived by Trump dynamic negotiaiting. He was going to drop in and walk away with Kim capitulation and the end of his nuclear program. Kim was having none of that.
 
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lisasanders1964 said:
The summit was a multi-million dollar FIZZER. Just like the Singapore summit was. The Singapore and Vietnamese governments are out of pocket by MILLIONS.

The summit finished early because trump had ANOTHER fucking tantrum.

Now he'll jump on Air Force One and rush back to the US ....TO PLAY GOLF!!!
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What do you suggest. Declare war on NK?
 
Trump is an utter failure at diplomacy becacause he is lazy and stupid

The Hanoi talks collapsed in failure because the low-energy, uninformed, and grossly out-of-shape Trump is too lazy to study, prep himself, and learn about diplomacy.

Hanoi Summit Failed Because Trump Refuses to Prep: ex-National Security Council member

Trump hates to prepare and likes to negotiate from the gut. The Hanoi humiliation with Kim Jong Un was the direct result.

Nothing about the Hanoi summit’s outcome is a surprise. The writing was on the wall, the president just refused to read it.

President Donald Trump’s failure to engage in the most basic preparatory work for this summit—and his longstanding penchant for putting personal convictions ahead of his experts’ opinions—meant that there was no way that he could have come out of this summit with a denuclearization deal.

I helped prep President Barack Obama for high-level meetings, and President Trump’s failure to engage in the first step of any presidential meeting prep was a strong indicator that this summit was doomed to fail.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/after...book-for-trump-summiting-for-dummies?ref=home
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This sounds eminently plausible.

Every single poster on this forum - whether than can admit it I public or not - knows that Trump is lazy, not interested in learning, dim witted, and does not prepare himself.
 
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