Not to them. Again, as you said, their mindset is the ends justify the means.
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Not to them. Again, as you said, their mindset is the ends justify the means.
Then why the dishonesty? If one understood that I wasn't claiming race and gender didn't have a big role, why say I was? Very weird stuff.
What makes you think that? Be specific, please.
Yes, when blacks had the first opportunity ever to vote for a black candidate for president, it boosted turnout a bit. I'm not denying that. On the flip side, I expect that if whites ever faced a presidential election where they DIDN'T have the ability to vote for a white, their turnout numbers would fall. But where whites and blacks differ is that black voters have shown, again and again, a capacity for the majority of them to vote for someone not of their own race. That kind of color-blindness seems to be beyond the reach of the white majority, which ALWAYS votes for the white man.
You said the effect of identity politics involved was negative, didn't you?
A bit?
Is that so? How many Black people have been viable candidates for POTUS?
I think that generally speaking progressives would do better to focus on what the middle and lower classes have in common, rather than playing along with efforts by the elite to drive wedges into that block.
A huge number, if by viability we draw the line at the least qualified person ever to win... which is to say, Donald Trump. Nearly every black person ever to run had more political experience and a more presidential temperament than Trump, as well as a stronger command of policy questions. Yet, before Obama, not one of them did very well in an election. And, yes, that includes some who were highly qualified.
For example, consider Carol Moseley Braun. She'd been a state-level politician for many years, then a US senator, then an ambassador to multiple countries. Even with the relatively less bigoted challenge of a Democratic primary, she barely even made a ripple.
Yes. Have you honestly looked at black voter turnout by year? The pattern leading up to and through the Obama years wasn't one of black apathy until a black guy ran, and then a sudden spike. It was a pattern of fairly steady increases in black turnout in 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012. Facts matter:A bit?
Now, did the fact Obama's black help to keep that longer-term trend going? Probably. But as you can see from the graph, the rise in 2008 and 2012 was no greater than the rise in 2000 and 2004.
The dishonesty came from you claiming that race and gender didn't play a big role when, in fact, they did.
Your claim of they didn't play a big role. It is incorrect, shown to be incorrect, and only you deny it.
You're lying again. It was more than just a bit. https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/21/us/politics/21vote.html
Funny thing is in 2016 when a black wasn't on the ticket, it dropped off. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...as-a-record-number-of-americans-cast-ballots/
BTW, those are opinions based on facts unlike your claim of your opinions being based on using yourself as a source.
Who do you imagine made that claim? If you're thinking it was me, go back and reread. I obviously made the exact opposite argument.
It's depressing how often debates on sites like this come down to elderly right-wingers trying to counter arguments that only appeared in their own addled minds. Dementia is a hell of a thing!
You made it. Now you're lying about it.
Apparently debates come down to idiots like you not being able to keep up with what you said and lying about it when you can't. Being stupid must be sad for you. The worst part about it is the rest of us have to deal with your stupidity and you live like nothing is wrong.
As you're aware, you did make such a statement and now lie about it. If you were honest, you'd admit. Since you're worthless, you do nothing but lie.
You should be shot on sight.
I don't think it's 100% accurate for that. Sure, a huge portion of the MAGA crowd have been addled by mind-altering substances. However, there are also the clinically obese seniors whose poor cardiovascular function has been starving their brains of oxygen. So, we can use them as screening tools for medical interventions of that sort, as well.
The murderous hatred of right-wingers here is really a spectacle to behold. Are your lives really that terrible that you carry that around, ready to burst out with the slightest provocation? I feel for you. Get help.
I got harassed wearing a Michigan State hat while on the University of Michigan campus. Apparently they were upset they lost the game.
I wonder if they will ban Michigan State apparel on the University of Michigan campus. Obviously wearing a Michigan State hat on the University of Michigan campus agitates some people and is a trigger for problems.
I wonder if they will ban Michigan State apparel on the University of Michigan campus. Obviously wearing a Michigan State hat on the University of Michigan campus agitates some people and is a trigger for problems.
You were in no danger. Wear a Michigan hat to an Ohio State game and see how that works out. I know people who are long term ticket holders and they will not return to Ohio State games.
But that is not what a Make America Hate Hat stands for. A MAGA hat is more like wearing a fuck you hat. It is more like a Swastika than a politiocal statement. Trump ran on confrontation. His hat is a symbol for that.
I bet you wear a pink pussy hat.
Nobody knows how anyone voted, because we have a secret ballot.
Pretending that "surveys" are factual is also incorrect, since respondents were able to claim any racial identity demographic with no evidence to back it up.
For all we know white people were claiming to be Native American.