Robo
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The feds regulate everything, everywhere!
The solution for healthcare that will never be instituted
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The feds regulate everything, everywhere!
Robo
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The feds don't regulate Medicaid, Medicare, Obamacare and they have no regulatory oversight in the states private market place in all 50 states? That's your proclamation and you're sticking with it, correct? You friend are talking out yo ass!!!
There you go again telling me "what I want." Still talking out yo ass!!!
Robo
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WRONG!!! I can see any specialist I wish WITHOUT a referral from a GP. My insurance doesn’t require it!!! I haven’t gone to a GP in 30 years. I have an advantage insurance policy through my employer’s retirement health plan. I never paid a co-pay until Obamacare was shoved down America’s throat by Obama and Nancy and Harry Reid. Thanks to them, I now have to shell out a $30.00 co-pay for every doctor visit.
Single Payer will require a single provider network in every state in the union! Staffed by 9 to 5 government employees watching porn on their computers and ignoring the folks. An American Single Payer system will be written and operated by the dictates of BIG Phrma and BIG insurance co’s who bid through the fed for the business of doing the paperwork racket and billing the feds at a fantastic “PROFIT.” You can take that to the bank friend. Your fantastic elected officials in Washington who live on getting elected by the grace and goodness of their favorite lobbyist and the loot in their campaign coffers there from will screw you till you scream!!!
Robo
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Truths are usually absurd to the lefties!!!
Where can you report they do it for another reason?
You’re very, very welcome!!! I’m sure you practiced your vocation free just because you’re a fine folk, correct?
So, you’re saying that America’s doctors aren’t dedicated to successful results and doctors in other places are, right? Have you ever considered moving to one of those places?
Actually, Most of Americas finest surgeons get paid by the operation, and I know of noplace on earth where surgeons don’t get paid for failed operations, do you?
Yeah, because that's where he's going for hernia surgery.
No, they don't. You're being an ignoramus now because you're too stubborn to admit you're wrong.
The Feds do not have regulatory oversight over state-based private insurance plans. And even their "oversight" on Medicaid is virtually non-existent and you've been unable to articulate what that oversight actually is. That's because you're full of shit, and you know it.
That is precisely what you've been arguing for, moron.
You've been arguing that out-of-state plans should bypass state regulations to be offered in your state's insurance market. Which is the complete antithesis of your 10th Amendment argument about health care.
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Right, which means you have the ultimate choice as to which doctors you want to see. In private insurance, you are limited in your choices by your insurance plan that tells you which provider networks you can enter and be treated.
You don't seem to know anything about health care.
WTF? You're on Medicare right now, idiot!
How so?
A single payer plan renders private insurance moot.
A single payer is immune to lobbyists because it is the single buyer of drugs, which gives it all the leverage in the world.
The only reason Medicare doesn't already do this is because of your prescription drug plan that prohibits it.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, and it shows.
So...you're opposed to private insurance because they're profiting off administration, yet you want private insurance to be the only thing offered.
Cognitive dissonance.
It's not my elected officials who take insurance lobby money, it's yours, idiot.
Republicans are the ones who take most HIPPA money.
Bullshit. What insurance plan is this? Who offers it? Where can I find it to check whether you're being truthful.
You have Medicare Advantage. You are literally in a government-run system. What a dope.
I don't believe you. Pretty sure you're making this shit up. You didn't pay a co-pay, but you had a high deductible, didn't you? Curious you leave that part out.
You probably had to do this before, and are just lying about it now because you know there's no way for someone to independently verify what you're claiming.
Why should I take your word for it? And I bet that if I did a deep dive into your posting history, I'd find a completely different story.
PoliTalker
Diversity Makes Greatness
Hello Robo,
That kind of stereotyping prevents having an objective view.
The biggest need for doctors is for GPs. That is the demand which needs to be filled. There are not enough General Practice doctors to serve our growing nation. But the majority of people who go through medical school don't want to fill that demand because it doesn't pay as much. Specialists get paid more. So that's what students go after. Nuff said. We get the picture. They are in it for the money and the prestige, not treating people or practicing medicine.
The goal should be a good health outcome for the patients, not one that rewards doctors for performing more operations. Capitalism is just wrong for health care. It's not like somebody who needs open heart surgery is going to get up and go driving around from ER to ER checking out the prices. The basic free market model is simply wrong for health care. Pricing and wages for health care workers should be determined by the system according to what's reasonable for people with that much training. Capitalism has no reason to set up this system so it has to be done by government.
We have a lot of work to do. We have to transform our health care system. The primary consideration should be a good health outcome for the patients; and the secondary priority should be keeping the cost as low as possible; while still making sure the workers are fairly rewarded for their dedication. There is no room in an efficient properly goal-oriented health care system for profit-taking. That has to end. Nobody needs to be getting fabulously rich by doing the work of administering health care. They should simply make a good living according to their value to the system.
Now you say the goal IS to have a good patient health outcome, I know. And I disagree. Here's the thing. What we are doing is not working very well. We are a sick nation. Capitalism and consumerism have made us sick. That's the reason health care costs so much. It's because the demand is so high. It's because we Americans get so sick and we need so many operations and drugs. That causes the payment system (currently the for-profit insurance industry) to have to make more payments, bigger payments. Look around. Unhealthy overweight people everywhere, we not taking good care of ourselves. Capitalism has no reason to do anything about that. Capitalism CAUSED it. All this high pressure marketing hype telling people to buy and consume. And often the products are unhealthy. The profit makers fight like hell against a well informed populace because the profiteers don't want people to stop buy unhealthy things. They're making money making America sick!
We don't need a trouble-shooting and repair type of health care system, ready to come riding to the rescue when you get sick. We need a proactive health care system aimed at preventing people from getting sick in the first place. 70% of America doesn't even know drinking alcohol increases cancer risk. Where are the surgeons protesting in the street for a better outcome like the teachers do when education has been cut to the knee? Many doctors are grossly overpaid, do they are not protesting anything. They will just shut up and take the money. Most Americans eat too much red meat, too many processed foods, don't have a balanced diet, don't eat enough vegetables, don't have a wide variety of basic healthy whole foods. And we don't exercise enough. We are too addicted to media devices. Kids don't go outside and play enough, don't have PE in school any more. Child diabetes is now big. It's ridiculous. And the marketing hype just looks the other way, still pushing the big gulp sodas, the giant package of junk chips. We even elected a president who glorifies unhealthy habits. What a sick nation.
Our health care system is complacent in all of this, greased by corrupt big money from the beef industry and the milk industry. Even our own government recommended diet is unhealthy, anything but properly balanced, too much red meat, not enough vegetables and salad, not enough variety. Red meat raises the risk of heart disease. The link is clear and well known. Why is it even on the government recommended diet? The AMA is complicit, too. Have they finally admitted that alcohol raises the cancer risk? This has been known about for a long time. People are dying to make others rich. The AMA once said it was a healthy habit to have two drinks a day, preferably red wine. Have they changed that recommendation yet?
No. The goal is NOT currently the best health for patients. That comes somewhere down the list after profit-taking and the key people getting rich.
That kind of stereotyping prevents having an objective view.
The biggest need for doctors is for GPs. That is the demand which needs to be filled. There are not enough General Practice doctors to serve our growing nation. But the majority of people who go through medical school don't want to fill that demand because it doesn't pay as much. Specialists get paid more. So that's what students go after. Nuff said. We get the picture. They are in it for the money and the prestige, not treating people or practicing medicine.
The goal should be a good health outcome for the patients, not one that rewards doctors for performing more operations. Capitalism is just wrong for health care. It's not like somebody who needs open heart surgery is going to get up and go driving around from ER to ER checking out the prices. The basic free market model is simply wrong for health care. Pricing and wages for health care workers should be determined by the system according to what's reasonable for people with that much training. Capitalism has no reason to set up this system so it has to be done by government.
We have a lot of work to do. We have to transform our health care system. The primary consideration should be a good health outcome for the patients; and the secondary priority should be keeping the cost as low as possible; while still making sure the workers are fairly rewarded for their dedication. There is no room in an efficient properly goal-oriented health care system for profit-taking. That has to end. Nobody needs to be getting fabulously rich by doing the work of administering health care. They should simply make a good living according to their value to the system.
Now you say the goal IS to have a good patient health outcome, I know. And I disagree. Here's the thing. What we are doing is not working very well. We are a sick nation. Capitalism and consumerism have made us sick. That's the reason health care costs so much. It's because the demand is so high. It's because we Americans get so sick and we need so many operations and drugs. That causes the payment system (currently the for-profit insurance industry) to have to make more payments, bigger payments. Look around. Unhealthy overweight people everywhere, we not taking good care of ourselves. Capitalism has no reason to do anything about that. Capitalism CAUSED it. All this high pressure marketing hype telling people to buy and consume. And often the products are unhealthy. The profit makers fight like hell against a well informed populace because the profiteers don't want people to stop buy unhealthy things. They're making money making America sick!
We don't need a trouble-shooting and repair type of health care system, ready to come riding to the rescue when you get sick. We need a proactive health care system aimed at preventing people from getting sick in the first place. 70% of America doesn't even know drinking alcohol increases cancer risk. Where are the surgeons protesting in the street for a better outcome like the teachers do when education has been cut to the knee? Many doctors are grossly overpaid, do they are not protesting anything. They will just shut up and take the money. Most Americans eat too much red meat, too many processed foods, don't have a balanced diet, don't eat enough vegetables, don't have a wide variety of basic healthy whole foods. And we don't exercise enough. We are too addicted to media devices. Kids don't go outside and play enough, don't have PE in school any more. Child diabetes is now big. It's ridiculous. And the marketing hype just looks the other way, still pushing the big gulp sodas, the giant package of junk chips. We even elected a president who glorifies unhealthy habits. What a sick nation.
Our health care system is complacent in all of this, greased by corrupt big money from the beef industry and the milk industry. Even our own government recommended diet is unhealthy, anything but properly balanced, too much red meat, not enough vegetables and salad, not enough variety. Red meat raises the risk of heart disease. The link is clear and well known. Why is it even on the government recommended diet? The AMA is complicit, too. Have they finally admitted that alcohol raises the cancer risk? This has been known about for a long time. People are dying to make others rich. The AMA once said it was a healthy habit to have two drinks a day, preferably red wine. Have they changed that recommendation yet?
No. The goal is NOT currently the best health for patients. That comes somewhere down the list after profit-taking and the key people getting rich.
anonymoose
Classical Liberal
I've advocated that we have a decentralized federal gubmint much like Switzerland has its cantons. We're far too divided as a country.