The solution for healthcare that will never be instituted

[LV426]

Yes we do!!!!! We spend more on NATO than all of them put together and you know it and ignore it!

But they are still spending, though, aren't they?

Who said our system was better

You did, idiot.

I’ve always said our health CARE is great, our health INSURANCE sucks. But that’s because the feds can’t keep their grubby unconstitutional authoritarian paws out of it!!!

Health insurance sucks because every state regulates it differently. But that's what you want, right? So you're complaining about the thing you want. Which makes your argument masturbation.

 

[LV426]

Who said our system was better? I’ve always said our health CARE is great, our health INSURANCE sucks. But that’s because the feds can’t keep their grubby unconstitutional authoritarian paws out of it!!!

Everything is circular with you.

You want states to regulate their own insurance markets, which they already do, but then you complain about how the system sucks.

Well, the system sucks because it's abiding by what you want.

Don't you want states to regulate insurance on their own? That's what you've been arguing this entire time, ignorant of the fact that they already do that.

So your indictment of the insurance system is an indictment of your belief system.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Robo,

Well maybe they should use the money they spend traveling abroad in a health savings account and then maybe they could afford America’s healthcare, huh?

That is their choice to make.

Read Article Five of our Constitution. The solution for that is given there.

The Constitution should be amended to allow us to have the National Weather Service? Why? We already have it.

Who’s “authority?”

The combined authority of all the governments of the world.

The only people I know who truly trust anything the UN does or collectively says are leftist and that’s because the UN is entirely infested by leftist socialist WORLD GOVERNMENT loonies communist, fascist, social drinkers and hundreds of others that hate America.

When conservatives say that the left hates America, that is conservatives telling you what the left thinks. If you really want to know what the left thinks you have to ask them.

And LISTEN.

I think it makes the most sense for health care to have the goal of making the most people as healthy as possible instead of making the already rich as rich as possible.

 

[Ross Dolan]

If they did, America would have to pick up the pieces and put them back together again, huh Frank?

As has been repeatedly pointed out to you, Robo...

...nobody in any country is clamoring to change from what they have in the way of healthcare...

...to what we are saddled with in this country FOR THE MOMENT.

Things are going to change...and they are going to change fast.

And people like you...as well as everyone else in our nation...will be the better for it.

 

[Ross Dolan]

OK Frank if that's your opinion! But that doesn't "fit my narrative either!!!! Try again Frank!!!

No need.

You are making a fool of yourself without more help from me.

 

[Irish Exit]

Maybe you're not looking hard enough.

https://www.naic.org/state_web_map.htm

Maybe you just assume every state is like yours. Our Insurance Commissioner is appointed by the State Corporation Commission.

 

[Robo]

Why would you need to go outside the country for medical care?

I don’t know, why? We have the best HEALTH care on earth.

Think about it; say you have an HSA, and you've saved a couple grand in it...but then you get cancer, which costs at least $6,300 (max OOPE for single person thanks to ACA), so your HSA has $2K in it, but the cost to treat your cancer is $6K...so what do you do then? Die? Go broke? Bankruptcy? Yard sale?

I have thought about it extensively! America’s health CARE is great! America’s health INSURANCE sucks!!! That’s why I posted the OP and it’s constitutional solution, which you have ignored and been unable to discredit or debunk!!!

I asked to explain how you think Article V supports what you're saying, because I interpret it differently than you do.



How you interpret it is unspoken. You just invoke the phrase "Article V" without bothering to explain how Article V supports you.

There’s only ONE interpretation!!! You haven’t even read it or you’d know that!!!

 

[Robo]

No need.

You are making a fool of yourself without more help from me.

That doesn't fit my narrative Frankie?

 

[Robo]

As has been repeatedly pointed out to you, Robo...

...nobody in any country is clamoring to change from what they have in the way of healthcare...

...to what we are saddled with in this country FOR THE MOMENT.

Things are going to change...and they are going to change fast.

And people like you...as well as everyone else in our nation...will be the better for it.

I'll soon be dead Frank!!! Your Single Payer won't fix that!!!

 

[Ross Dolan]

That doesn't fit my narrative Frankie?

Fine. Reject it.

Doing so plays into my narrative.

 

[Ross Dolan]

I'll soon be dead Frank!!! Your Single Payer won't fix that!!!

I'm 82, Robo...I will soon be dead also.

Not everything is about ME...or YOU.

And for the record...I want MUCH MORE THAN SINGLE PAYER.

I would prefer a national health system like the UK has.

 

[Robo]

Hello Robo, The Constitution should be amended to allow us to have the National Weather Service? Why? We already have it.

Only because the Constitution is the nation’s rule of law and it requires that if the Congress and the folks deem that a necessary action is needed that only the feds can best do, but is not already an enumerated power of the feds in the Constitution, it must be authorized by amendment to the Constitution. Otherwise, the feds can simply ignore the Constitution whenever and for what so ever else they wish to do without constitutional authority, thereby becoming the scum-bags we have in the Washington swamp today.

When conservatives say that the left hates America, that is conservatives telling you what the left thinks. If you really want to know what the left thinks you have to ask them.

And LISTEN.

That’s your problem they listen and they know what the left thinks!

I think it makes the most sense for health care to have the goal of making the most people as healthy as possible instead of making the already rich as rich as possible.

Actually that’s already the actual goal of health “CARE!!!” I relent the fact that you’ll never understand or admit that health CARE and health INSURANCE are two different things!!!

 

[Robo]

I'm 82, Robo...I will soon be dead also.

Not everything is about ME...or YOU.

And for the record...I want MUCH MORE THAN SINGLE PAYER.

I would prefer a national health system like the UK has.

Don't blame me Frank that you want the worst possible anti-freedom, bankrupting kind of health insurance for America and you're about to take that propagandized uninformed wish to your grave!!!

 

[Legion]

Why would they, when we provide their national defense for them and they can use their loot for crummy Single Payer?

He hasn't proven his claim. Why do you accept it?

 

[Legion]

I'm 82, ...I will soon be dead.

 

[Legion]

Maybe you just assume every state is like yours. Our Insurance Commissioner is appointed by the State Corporation Commission.

He tries to portray himself as an "expert", and then humiliates himself when his ignorance is exposed.

 

[Robo]

He hasn't proven his claim. Why do you accept it?

I don't except it. I'm simply pointing out his absurd pride in things he can't prove.

 

[Legion]

Maybe you're not looking hard enough. https://www.naic.org/state_web_map.htm

Maybe you aren't smart enough.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/financial-services-and-commerce/insurance-state-regulators-selection-and-term-stat.aspx

Quick facts about Insurance Commissioners: Elected in 11 states; appointed in 39. In the 39 appointed states, 37 are appointed by the Governor and two states (New Mexico and Virginia), appoint via a multi-member commission.

https://ballotpedia.org/Insurance_Commissioner_(state_executive_office)

 

[Legion]

I don't except it. I'm simply pointing out his absurd pride in things he can't prove.

 

[PoliTalker]

"I think it makes the most sense for health care to have the goal of making the most people as healthy as possible instead of making the already rich as rich as possible. "

Hello Robo,

Actually that’s already the actual goal of health “CARE!!!” I relent the fact that you’ll never understand or admit that health CARE and health INSURANCE are two different things!!!

If that were the goal of health care we would not have a shortage of GP's coming out of medical school. Specialists make more money. Seems like most of them are 'specializing' in dollar-ectomies.

If that were the goal then medical school would not be elite. The number of graduates from major league schools with massive endowments would not be capped at the same levels they had when the population was half what it is today. These institutions would serve SOCIETY, not the rich.

Most of our current health care system, from the ground up, is focused on generating profits, raising the take for top health care workers, and keeping the top ranks exclusive. It's like they climbed the ladder of success and then pulled it up after themselves.