Epicurus
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Whatever makes you feel better. lol.
Obama Is A Muslim
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Whatever makes you feel better. lol.
Bai Lan
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LOL. You're a punk. LOL.
Bai Lan
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Bai Lan
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Yes they are. NANNY NANNY BOO BOO!
Bai Lan
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In all branches of islam it means a proactive war against infidels.
FALSE!
Bai Lan
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in which one is it NOT?
uscitizen
Villified User
All of the above.
The one down the street. Many others I see on the internet. I do not know the names of the sects, but I know many Muslams who do not belive in the Jihad you are talking about.
Jihad is amung the mainstreem muslams another word for justified war. For the radical Muslams, not being muslam is justification for jihad, not for the mainstreem.
Jihad means to "Struggle in the Way of God" or "To struggle to Improve oneself, or society"...
Jihad can be directed at 'The Devil', at oneself, or at an outside enemy.
There are four recognized categories of Jihad.
1. Jihad against oneself
2. Jihad of the tongue
3. Jihad of the hand
4. Jihad of the sword
Islamic jurisprudence has a focus to control the types of jihad practiced by Muslims, therefore you often see the word used in fiqh manuals referring to warfare.
Anyway,
It can mean as little as striving hard to improve yourself, up to direct and violent warfare.
Here is a decent article on it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad
It does not mean only what you define it as using only one of the accepted means of usage.
Bai Lan
Let It Rot
The sect down the street eh? Yeah. You don't know shit.
Thank you Damo!
[edit] Jihad as warfare (Jihad bil Saif)
Within Islamic jurisprudence Jihad is the only form of warfare permissible under Islamic law, and may be declared against apostates, rebels, highway robbers, violent groups, non-Islamic leaders or non-Muslim combatants, but there are other ways to perform jihad as well including civil disobedience. The primary aim of jihad is not the conversion of non-Muslims to Islam by force, but rather the expansion and defense of the Islamic state. [8][9][5]
In the classical manuals of Islamic jurisprudence, the rules associated with armed warfare are covered at great length.[9] Such rules include not killing women, children and non-combatants, as well as not damaging cultivated or residential areas.[10] More recently, modern Muslims have tried to re-interpret the Islamic sources, stressing that Jihad is essentially defensive warfare aimed at protecting Muslims and Islam.[9] Although some Islamic scholars have differed on the implementation of Jihad, there is consensus amongst them that the concept of jihad will always include armed struggle against persecution and oppression.[11]
Jihad has also been applied to offensive, aggressive warfare, as exemplified by early movements like the Kharijites and the contemporary Egyptian Islamic Jihad organization (which assassinated Anwar Al Sadat) as well as Jihad organizations in Lebanon, the Gulf states, and Indonesia.[3] When used to describe warfare between Islamic groups or individuals, such as al-Qaeda's attacks on civilians in Iraq, perpetrators of violence often cite collaboration with non-Islamic powers as a justification.[12] Terrorist attacks like that of September 11, 2001, which was planned and executed by radical Islamic fundamentalists, have not been sanctioned by more centrist groups of Muslims.[13] This kind of terrorism has often been condemned by Muslims all around the world.[14]
When Muslim populations are attacked on the basis of religion, Jihad becomes mandatory on the government of that particular state (and all Muslims) until all hostile forces are either eliminated or negotiated out of the occupied land. If the threat continues to persist, the Islamic State may have to eliminate the threat through force.[citation needed]
The word itself is recorded in English since 1869, in the Muslim sense, and has been used for any doctrinal crusade since c. 1880.[15]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad
Within Islamic jurisprudence Jihad is the only form of warfare permissible under Islamic law, and may be declared against apostates, rebels, highway robbers, violent groups, non-Islamic leaders or non-Muslim combatants, but there are other ways to perform jihad as well including civil disobedience. The primary aim of jihad is not the conversion of non-Muslims to Islam by force, but rather the expansion and defense of the Islamic state. [8][9][5]
In the classical manuals of Islamic jurisprudence, the rules associated with armed warfare are covered at great length.[9] Such rules include not killing women, children and non-combatants, as well as not damaging cultivated or residential areas.[10] More recently, modern Muslims have tried to re-interpret the Islamic sources, stressing that Jihad is essentially defensive warfare aimed at protecting Muslims and Islam.[9] Although some Islamic scholars have differed on the implementation of Jihad, there is consensus amongst them that the concept of jihad will always include armed struggle against persecution and oppression.[11]
Jihad has also been applied to offensive, aggressive warfare, as exemplified by early movements like the Kharijites and the contemporary Egyptian Islamic Jihad organization (which assassinated Anwar Al Sadat) as well as Jihad organizations in Lebanon, the Gulf states, and Indonesia.[3] When used to describe warfare between Islamic groups or individuals, such as al-Qaeda's attacks on civilians in Iraq, perpetrators of violence often cite collaboration with non-Islamic powers as a justification.[12] Terrorist attacks like that of September 11, 2001, which was planned and executed by radical Islamic fundamentalists, have not been sanctioned by more centrist groups of Muslims.[13] This kind of terrorism has often been condemned by Muslims all around the world.[14]
When Muslim populations are attacked on the basis of religion, Jihad becomes mandatory on the government of that particular state (and all Muslims) until all hostile forces are either eliminated or negotiated out of the occupied land. If the threat continues to persist, the Islamic State may have to eliminate the threat through force.[citation needed]
The word itself is recorded in English since 1869, in the Muslim sense, and has been used for any doctrinal crusade since c. 1880.[15]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad
Bai Lan
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And nowadays it's usually 'struggle with the sword'
and additionally
oh, and damo, Chosen People of God isn't racist either.
damo the mason will defend any form of totalitarianism when it comes down to it, theocratic or otherwise.
And nowadays it's usually 'struggle with the sword'
and additionally
oh, and damo, Chosen People of God isn't racist either.
damo the mason will defend any form of totalitarianism when it comes down to it, theocratic or otherwise.
Some of the largest and most embarrassing BS I have read is when you attempt to defend what has been proven wrong. It's when you start in on "Freemason" crap that I know that the argument has been won and that you know nothing of Freemasons.
You stated in this thread many times that the only usage for the word was warfare and that no sect teaches differently. We find out that every sect teaches differently and that the word has far larger-reaching meaning than you wanted us to believe.
You are a sad little man who fears so much for so little reason. It shows weakness and fear to suggest things that are untrue then to resort to ad hominem when showed to be factually incorrect.
Bai Lan
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How would you know, hysterical denial and bad logic don't prove me wrong.
It is violence in all of them. It may also have other connotations in other context. But none of them completely remove the violence from the teaching.
Good day.
What proved you wrong was the actual writings of the religion. The hysterical denial and bad logic were just a given once you started into factually incorrect assumption. It was the fruit of the poisoned tree.
It is a good day, but it has little to do with the facts you presented being wrong. That was because you were ignorant of the actual meanings that the word had other than what you wanted it to have.
Bai Lan
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No they didn't.
Hysterical denials and bad logic are your usual m.o. , not descriptive of anything I've done.