Dems hit another one outta the park, Medicare For All discussion has arrived

ThatOwlWoman said:
There are plenty of ways to do this, as dozens of other civilized nations have shown.... for decades. The problem is the rubes have bought into the whole "it will bankrupt the country" screams from the right.
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Very true and compare the populations and taxes with the US. You people always seem to forget that there are numerous others taxes that are levied to pay for universal health care. So I ask you again come up with a way to pay for it and saying other countries do it is not an answer.
 
Legion said:
Hold on - I want to be reasonably assured that it will work as well as American healthcare does now.

Shitty service provided by an expensive and unaccountable bureaucracy has been the norm for government so far. What makes anyone think healthcare would be any better?
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You miss the whole point. We all know healthcare will go to hell in a hand basket with Medicare for all. I just want to watch them squirm about paying for it. It is a pipe dream and hopefully will never come about.
 
Grumpy said:
You miss the whole point. We all know healthcare will go to hell in a hand basket with Medicare for all. I just want to watch them squirm about paying for it. It is a pipe dream and hopefully will never come about.
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Nationalized socialist healthcare is already a hyper-expensive failure everywhere it's been tried, hasn't it?
 
Legion said:
Nationalized socialist healthcare is already a hyper-expensive failure everywhere it's been tried, hasn't it?
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But the left doesn't see it they only see that people are getting FREE HEALTHCARE while ignoring that the people are paying an arm and a leg for it.
 
Grumpy said:
But the left doesn't see it they only see that people are getting FREE HEALTHCARE while ignoring that the people are paying an arm and a leg for it.
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And they ignore the historical evidence that says that nationalized socialist healthcare sucks everywhere it's been tried, so much so that foreigners flock to the US to get treatment.
 
Getin the ring said:
I'm hoping the "medicare for all" legislation makes it over to the Senate real soon
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Along with the House impeachment of Trump and their sore-loser screed calling for amending the Constitution to get rid of the Electoral College. :rofl2:

Can "universal basic income" be far behind?
 
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Grumpy said:
Once again you prove you are full of shit and can't accept the truth.


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The truth, asshole, is that when Obama took office he was in the middle of Bushs final budget. Any deficits that occurred between the date of swearing in and October of that year belonged solely to Bush. When the Bush budget ended we had a deficit of 12 trillion, so Obama started from that point on.
 
floridafan said:
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The truth, asshole, is that when Obama took office he was in the middle of Bushs final budget. Any deficits that occurred between the date of swearing in and October of that year belonged solely to Bush. When the Bush budget ended we had a deficit of 12 trillion, so Obama started from that point on.
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Oh WOW Obama only added 7 TRILLION to the debt instead of 9 what a financial wizard he was!!!! You are a fucking joke.
 
Grumpy said:
Oh WOW Obama only added 7 TRILLION to the debt instead of 9 what a financial wizard he was!!!! You are a fucking joke.
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Asshole, if Congress, a republican congress holds the purse strings and writes and passes spending legislation, how is it Obama’s fault?
 
How dumb must grumpy be to believe that a system where individuals control everything based upon their personal interests or such cabals they might decide to game the world with
could possibly be better than a system where private decisions are allowed and private property is respected but regulated to ensure fairness and justice?

That people, is the essential difference in philosophy. Trump's life is the PERFECT exemplar and metaphor for what this is about. It's not about socialism or communism or Obamaphones
or walls. It's about a creeping criminal state of unbridled capitalists sucking the marrow out of the American dream of a job making 70 grand a mortgage payment, braces for the kids, honest work,
a days pay and taxes, and yes, a welfare state for the losers of life.

Go ahead and vote for tax cuts and walls though. Trump is a continuation of the 3rd worldization and syndicalization of America. An Al Capone ideal. A robber baron dystopia.
You elected a thug, and a fucking dumb one at that.
 
floridafan said:
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The truth, asshole, is that when Obama took office he was in the middle of Bushs final budget. Any deficits that occurred between the date of swearing in and October of that year belonged solely to Bush. When the Bush budget ended we had a deficit of 12 trillion, so Obama started from that point on.
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Ouch, that left a mark. He is too stupid to feel it though.
 
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