Israel Wall Doesnt Work

kudzu said:
No he didn't.. LOLOL Read Moshe Dayan.. The Israelis planned provocations for a decade..many armed incursions into Lebanon and Syria, stealing topsoil and killing small groups of farmers.. It was all very deliberate.

They even tried diverting Lebanese Rivers into Israel. They were damaged by WW2 and the Holocaust. Read Truman's letters to Eleanor Roosevelt.. He despairs that the Jews became bullies as soon as they got the upper hand.
Click to expand...

Here she goes with the topsoil again, those evil Joos!!
 
kudzu said:
That was basically BS.. No Israeli flagged ship had passed thru the Strait of Tiran for 14 months BEFORE the closure.

Israel set it up and played the victim .. and the Soviets were in it up to their eyeballs. You might want to do some serious reading.. The Polish archives have been declassified and all that is available at the Wilson Center website.
Click to expand...

God, you're so full of shit!!

May 14, 1948, United Nations Resolution 181 went into effect, creating the sovereign nation of Israel from the former British Mandate of Palestine. The following day, five Arab neighbors invaded. Israel defended itself, losing only the Gaza Strip to Egypt and the West Bank of the Jordan River, including the 'old city' of Jerusalem, to Jordan. For the next 19 years, Israel faced hundreds of deadly conflicts with its neighbors over its own right to exist, its increasing military power, and the status of non-Jewish residents and refugees.

Throughout this time frame, the United States was concerned about increasing Soviet power and influence in the Arab states and began arming Israel. Meanwhile, many of the Arab nations were bickering among themselves. Egyptian leader Gamal Nasser asserted his intentions to unify the Arab nations, but Saudi Arabia and Jordan resisted his efforts to gain control. Syria criticized Egypt for its lack of leadership against Israel.

But in a May 1967 speech, Nasser defended himself, claiming, 'We were waiting for the day when we would be fully prepared and confident of being able to adopt strong measures if we were to enter the battle with Israel… Recently we felt we are strong enough, that if we were to enter a battle with Israel, with God's help, we could triumph… The battle will be a general one and our basic objective will be to destroy Israel.'

Abruptly, Nasser expelled UN peacekeepers that had been stationed in the Sinai since the Suez Crisis, and then moved tens of thousands of men, tanks, and artillery to his border with Israel the following day. Three days later, on May 22, he blockaded all ships bound for Israel through the Straits of Tiran. Now, a decade earlier, U.S. President Eisenhower had promised that the United States would treat another closure of the Straits of Tiran as an act of war. But while President Johnson did condemn the illegal blockade in 1967, he failed to generate international help in ending it.

Nasser's boldness made him a hero. There were celebrations in the streets throughout the Arab world, and nations that had been at each other's throats were suddenly unified in their single purpose of destroying Israel. Over the next ten days, nearly a quarter million Arab troops marched toward Israel. Oil-producing nations agreed to boycott any nation that defended Israel. The U.S. warned Israel to wait.
Click to expand...

https://study.com/academy/lesson/the-six-day-war-of-1967-causes-timeline.html#
 
Last edited:
kudzu said:
Its good to have someone knowledgeable here.
Click to expand...

I can't pat myself on the back, because I thought the context, history, and essence of the Berlin Wall was widely known.

I wonder what rightwing blogger started this crap about comparing the Berlin Wall to Trump's wall? Because I know it is not an original idea that started with any conservative here, especially considered they way they are parroting it.

The Berlin Wall was - what - 20 kilometers long, laced with land mines, and armed guards with shoot to kill orders?

That is not a good analogy, nor even technical and economically feasible for a two thousand mile border. And that is not even mention the morality of shoot to kill orders and land mines.
 
Cypress said:
I can't pat myself on the back, because I thought the context, history, and essence of the Berlin Wall was widely known.

I wonder what rightwing blogger started this crap about comparing the Berlin Wall to Trump's wall? Because I know it is not an original idea that started with any conservative here, especially considered they way they are parroting it.

The Berlin Wall was - what - 20 kilometers long, laced with land mines, and armed guards with shoot to kill orders?

That is not a good analogy, nor even technical and economically feasible for a two thousand mile border. And that is not even mention the morality of shoot to kill orders and land mines.
Click to expand...


They're young.. and most serious racists are real stupid.. They think the Berlin Wall was a good thing. There's a thread about the uptick among racists since Obama was elected.. Its rather shocking IMO.

Trump tapped right into it.
 
kudzu said:
They're young.. and most serious racists are real stupid.. They think the Berlin Wall was a good thing. There's a thread about the uptick among racists since Obama was elected.. Its rather shocking IMO.

Trump tapped right into it.
Click to expand...

Anyone foolish enough to attempt an analogy between the Berlin Wall and Trump's wall is displaying an ignorance of history, and they are suggesting that we need a 2,000 mile wall laced with land mines and armed guards with shoot to kill orders.

At that point, we wouldn't even be the America I know anymore.

Anyone stooping to that bogus analogy has not only displayed their ignorance, but also their moral depravity.
 
Cypress said:
I can't pat myself on the back, because I thought the context, history, and essence of the Berlin Wall was widely known.

I wonder what rightwing blogger started this crap about comparing the Berlin Wall to Trump's wall? Because I know it is not an original idea that started with any conservative here, especially considered they way they are parroting it.

The Berlin Wall was - what - 20 kilometers long, laced with land mines, and armed guards with shoot to kill orders?

That is not a good analogy, nor even technical and economically feasible for a two thousand mile border. And that is not even mention the morality of shoot to kill orders and land mines.
Click to expand...

How long was the Iron Curtain, you dopey fucker? Allow me to help you, it was 4000 miles long and ran from Estonia to Yugoslavia.
 
Grumpy said:
Wow you use a terrorist supporting/run org as your authority, and you call conservatives dumb!
Click to expand...

Not all of them, but the ones like you? Of course, because you are. 'Course then again, you're not really a conservative.

Could you please run your snowflakey little white "conservative" punkbitch ass to the mods and tell them H B Lowrie is another Fentoine Lum account and get me banned permanently? Thanks in advance. Your asshole cohort's flinging of “faggot” all over the place all day long is so much different than my “offense” which his ultimately that I refuse to agree with you lot. Buy the way, Stool still yearns for prepubescent little boys like a priest. All my best to Reich wing regurgitative twits TOP and Stool, whiney little no discussion bitches one and all that require the safe space of a “conversational” circle jerk. Cheers.
 
Grumpy said:
Spare me the poor Palistine people are the victims bullshit. The average Palistinan has been brain washed from birth to hate Jews and westerners. Sorry I don't buy your propaganda.
Click to expand...

Now why should anybody hate someone who has stolen their home and is standing on their neck ?
 
Sailor said:
I understand all that. I am not a proponent of the wall or what it stood for. I am stating, once again, it did what it was intended to do.
Click to expand...

Which was what exactly, bath-tub ? I do enjoy spotlighting the shallowness of your..er.....intelligence.
 
kudzu said:
Israel started the 1967 war by attacking Egypt when Egyptian troops were deployed in Yemen.. They planned the war since 1952-53.. Read Sharrett and Moshe Dayan. They wanted more land and water.

In fact, before the Israelis attacked Nasser had called for a summit to resolve the problem of the Strait of Tiran.. I am sorry you were taught lies.. The Europeans have always known the truth, but not Americans.
Click to expand...

sad little lib'rul idiots........

In the months prior to June 1967, tensions became dangerously heightened. Israel reiterated its post-1956 position that the closure of the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping would be a cause for war (a casus belli). In May Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser announced that the straits would be closed to Israeli vessels and then mobilised its Egyptian forces along its border with Israel. On 5 June, Israel launched what it claimed were a series of preemptive airstrikes against Egyptian airfields. Which side caused the war is one of a number of controversies relating to the conflict.
Click to expand...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

what is not in conflict is the fact that Israel won the war.......
 
kudzu said:
The West Bank was beautiful.. Lots of Almond trees and ancient olive trees and Pomegranates .. Christians and Muslims lived there side by side in peace.
Click to expand...

And then along came the PLO and things really started going to hell. You do remember the PLO was considered a terrorist org until the 90's but Hamas and other radical Islamist stepped in to fill the void when the PLO agreed that Israel had a right to exist. Sorry sport but the way I see it is radical Islam is the reason for the bloodshed.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top