Put families on the street or raise taxes on the rich.

jbander said:
With the right going after every safety net from SS ,medicare, Medicaid ,food support ,housing support, disability , generally all of this countries safety nets . Should the right get what they want or should we raise taxes on the wealthy. To take care of it. You won't get far here with everyone's a cheat routine, without credible sources supporting that scenario.
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easy call....give the right what they want and raise taxes on demmycunts....
 
Hello jbander,

jbander said:
With the right going after every safety net from SS ,medicare, Medicaid ,food support ,housing support, disability , generally all of this countries safety nets . Should the right get what they want or should we raise taxes on the wealthy. To take care of it. You won't get far here with everyone's a cheat routine, without credible sources supporting that scenario.
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I call for raising taxes on the rich.

Easy choice.
 
Hello Sirthinksalot,

Sirthinksalot said:
Your false dichotomy notwithstanding, higher tax rates do not necessarily result in higher tax revenues.
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Taxes are so low now that we are not collecting enough revenue, so it stands to reason when we raise taxes on the rich we will increase our revenue to sufficient levels to eliminate the deficit and begin paying down the debt.

And if we can't do it now while the economy is good, we will never be able to do it during the next recession.
 
Hello Grugore,

Grugore said:
Show me one example where raising taxes ever helped anyone.
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What a red herring.

When did taxing of any amount ever help anyone?

The idea is to balance the budget.

Something Republicans seem to have forgotten we need to do.
 
Hello Kacper,

Kacper said:
Cool. Now we need a higher booze tax instead of a higher capital gains tax. Just to be fair, it should apply to milk as well.
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We need to tax capital gains just like a paycheck. Maybe even more. Capital gains are easier to come by. People have to work for a paycheck.
 
jbander said:
With the right going after every safety net from SS ,medicare, Medicaid ,food support ,housing support, disability , generally all of this countries safety nets . Should the right get what they want or should we raise taxes on the wealthy. To take care of it. You won't get far here with everyone's a cheat routine, without credible sources supporting that scenario.
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You're too stupid to comprehend that even if you taxed the rich 100%, you would still have people on the street. This isn't about taxes you retard; it's about throwing the mentally ill out there because of leftist dumbasses who claimed State Mental Hospitals were cruel and unusual punishment and that they had a better idea.

Some idea right?
 
montgomery said:
According to supplyside economics, Reaganomics, or trickle down economics, tax decreases are the answer. You should try to develop your argument. There are lots of us who can have some fun with it! You really are a stupid fukking wanker aren't you!
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I am amused when low IQ dumbfucks try to lecture us using a leftist meme like trickle down. But dumber still is this notion of trickling up or that giving the Government even more of our hard earned wealth results in solutions.
 
jbander said:
Why would anyone who cares about people in need even look at the hate party's plan. They want it in their pockets that's as plain as the nose on your face, With the 1 1/2 trillion dollar tax cut for the wealthy in the same breath they went for more then that in cutting funding for every aspects of the safety net.
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I am amused when morons on the left believe that turning citizens into dependent wards of the state is caring.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Sirthinksalot,



Taxes are so low now that we are not collecting enough revenue, so it stands to reason when we raise taxes on the rich we will increase our revenue to sufficient levels to eliminate the deficit and begin paying down the debt.

And if we can't do it now while the economy is good, we will never be able to do it during the next recession.
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:lolup:Brain dead liberal moron thinks we don't pay enough taxes. :laugh:

#1 Air Transportation Taxes (just look at how much you were charged the last time you flew)

#2 Biodiesel Fuel Taxes

#3 Building Permit Taxes

#4 Business Registration Fees

#5 Capital Gains Taxes

#6 Cigarette Taxes

#7 Court Fines (indirect taxes)

#8 Disposal Fees

#9 Dog License Taxes

#10 Drivers License Fees (another form of taxation)

#11 Employer Health Insurance Mandate Tax

#12 Employer Medicare Taxes

#13 Employer Social Security Taxes

#14 Environmental Fees

#15 Estate Taxes

#16 Excise Taxes On Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans

#17 Federal Corporate Taxes

#18 Federal Income Taxes

#19 Federal Unemployment Taxes

#20 Fishing License Taxes

#21 Flush Taxes (yes, this actually exists in some areas)

#22 Food And Beverage License Fees

#23 Franchise Business Taxes

#24 Garbage Taxes

#25 Gasoline Taxes

#26 Gift Taxes

#27 Gun Ownership Permits

#28 Hazardous Material Disposal Fees

#29 Highway Access Fees

#30 Hotel Taxes (these are becoming quite large in some areas)

#31 Hunting License Taxes

#32 Import Taxes

#33 Individual Health Insurance Mandate Taxes

#34 Inheritance Taxes

#35 Insect Control Hazardous Materials Licenses

#36 Inspection Fees

#37 Insurance Premium Taxes

#38 Interstate User Diesel Fuel Taxes

#39 Inventory Taxes

#40 IRA Early Withdrawal Taxes

#41 IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)

#42 IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)

#43 Library Taxes

#44 License Plate Fees

#45 Liquor Taxes

#46 Local Corporate Taxes

#47 Local Income Taxes

#48 Local School Taxes

#49 Local Unemployment Taxes

#50 Luxury Taxes

#51 Marriage License Taxes

#52 Medicare Taxes

#53 Medicare Tax Surcharge On High Earning Americans Under Obamacare

#54 Obamacare Individual Mandate Excise Tax (if you don’t buy “qualifying” health insurance under Obamacare you will have to pay an additional tax)

#55 Obamacare Surtax On Investment Income (a new 3.8% surtax on investment income)

#56 Parking Meters

#57 Passport Fees

#58 Professional Licenses And Fees (another form of taxation)

#59 Property Taxes

#60 Real Estate Taxes

#61 Recreational Vehicle Taxes

#62 Registration Fees For New Businesses

#63 Toll Booth Taxes

#64 Sales Taxes

#65 Self-Employment Taxes

#66 Sewer & Water Taxes

#67 School Taxes

#68 Septic Permit Taxes

#69 Service Charge Taxes

#70 Social Security Taxes

#71 Special Assessments For Road Repairs Or Construction

#72 Sports Stadium Taxes

#73 State Corporate Taxes

#74 State Income Taxes

#75 State Park Entrance Fees

#76 State Unemployment Taxes (SUTA)

#77 Tanning Taxes (a new Obamacare tax on tanning services)

#78 Telephone 911 Service Taxes

#79 Telephone Federal Excise Taxes

#80 Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Taxes

#81 Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Taxes

#82 Telephone State And Local Taxes

#83 Telephone Universal Access Taxes

#84 The Alternative Minimum Tax

#85 Tire Recycling Fees

#86 Tire Taxes

#87 Tolls (another form of taxation)

#88 Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)

#89 Use Taxes (Out of state purchases, etc.)

#90 Utility Taxes

#91 Vehicle Registration Taxes

#92 Waste Management Taxes

#93 Water Rights Fees

#94 Watercraft Registration & Licensing Fees

#95 Well Permit Fees

#96 Workers Compensation Taxes

#97 Zoning Permit Fees
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Kacper,



We need to tax capital gains just like a paycheck. Maybe even more. Capital gains are easier to come by. People have to work for a paycheck.
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Yup it's income but more then half of that cap gains break goes to 1/10 of 1% off this country. If there is a tax that should be put through the ceiling that's the one. It's nothing but a gravy train for the fat old white men.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Kacper,



We need to tax capital gains just like a paycheck. Maybe even more. Capital gains are easier to come by. People have to work for a paycheck.
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Short term capital gains are taxed as ordinary income as well as most dividends. In Addition, the current long term steps disproportionately benefit the working class, so treating long term gains as ordinary income discourages investment and upward mobility at the end of the spectrum you profess to want to help. The Trump tax reform extended carried interest special treatment from 1 to 3 years which dabbles at making venture capitalists pay more realistic taxes. There are ways to get at increasing revenue/taxes and bring some of the most egregious tax avoiders into regular income rates without throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
 
jbander said:
With the right going after every safety net from SS ,medicare, Medicaid ,food support ,housing support, disability , generally all of this countries safety nets . Should the right get what they want or should we raise taxes on the wealthy. To take care of it. You won't get far here with everyone's a cheat routine, without credible sources supporting that scenario.
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People who think the wealthy are going to stand by and let you confiscate their wealth are STUPID

Leftists are so dumb that they actually believe Warren Buffett when he SAYS he thinks he should pay more taxes.

Yet they ignore the fact that he uses every legal means to shield himself from as many taxes as possible

Leftists are so fucking stupid, gullible and naive

They should all be exterminated right after the muslimes
 
Truth Detector said:
I am amused when low IQ dumbfucks try to lecture us using a leftist meme like trickle down. But dumber still is this notion of trickling up or that giving the Government even more of our hard earned wealth results in solutions.
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Especially when they get it wrong. The Laffer Curve wasn't a prominent topic of discussion until late in Reagan's second term. Reagan cut some taxes but he raised others. The Left will never forgive him for cutting the top marginal rate but he had no choice but to do so given the circumstances at the time. None of the leftist fuckwits complaining about Reagan know why he had to cut that rate and that tells me none of them have ever owned or operated a small business in this country otherwise they would know why the top marginal rate is so important when it comes to S-Corps.
 
Hello Kacper,

Kacper said:
Short term capital gains are taxed as ordinary income as well as most dividends. In Addition, the current long term steps disproportionately benefit the working class, so treating long term gains as ordinary income discourages investment and upward mobility at the end of the spectrum you profess to want to help. The Trump tax reform extended carried interest special treatment from 1 to 3 years which dabbles at making venture capitalists pay more realistic taxes. There are ways to get at increasing revenue/taxes and bring some of the most egregious tax avoiders into regular income rates without throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
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Such as taxing the rich more?
 
Deplorable said:
Especially when they get it wrong. The Laffer Curve wasn't a prominent topic of discussion until late in Reagan's second term. Reagan cut some taxes but he raised others. The Left will never forgive him for cutting the top marginal rate but he had no choice but to do so given the circumstances at the time. None of the leftist fuckwits complaining about Reagan know why he had to cut that rate and that tells me none of them have ever owned or operated a small business in this country otherwise they would know why the top marginal rate is so important when it comes to S-Corps.
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Amen!
 
I Love America said:
People who think the wealthy are going to stand by and let you confiscate their wealth are STUPID

Leftists are so dumb that they actually believe Warren Buffett when he SAYS he thinks he should pay more taxes.

Yet they ignore the fact that he uses every legal means to shield himself from as many taxes as possible

Leftists are so fucking stupid, gullible and naive

They should all be exterminated right after the muslimes
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What makes them dumber than a box of rocks is the notion that we have a Revenue problem and not a spending problem and that the economy is finite, therefore, if Gates gets more wealth, someone else got less. They really are the most smug, arrogant, dumbasses on the planet.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Kacper,



Such as taxing the rich more?
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Could cap the amount of gains eligible for special treatment. Could force employers to create portable investment accounts as part of payroll. The justification for the special treatment of long term gains is that the money is often already taxed and it is being retaxed without indexing for inflation. Eliminate them and you will see growing demands for eliminating the corporate taxes on dividends.
 
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