Why We Need Gun Restrictions

sear said:

modern (mòd´ern) adjective
Abbr. mod.
1.a. Of or relating to recent times or the present: modern history. b. Characteristic or expressive of recent times or the present; contemporary or up-to-date: a modern lifestyle; a modern way of thinking.
2.a. Of or relating to a recently developed or advanced style, technique, or technology: modern art; modern medicine. b. Avant-garde; experimental.
3. Modern. Linguistics. Of, relating to, or being a living language or group of languages: Modern Italian, Modern Romance languages.

noun
1.One who lives in modern times.
2.One who has modern ideas, standards, or beliefs.
3.Printing. Any of a variety of typefaces characterized by strongly contrasted heavy and thin parts.

[French moderne, from Old French, from Late Latin modernus, from Latin modo, in a certain manner, just now, from modo, ablative of modus, manner.]
- mod´ernly adverb
- mod´ernness noun

Word History: The word modern, first recorded in 1585 in the sense "of present or recent times," has traveled through the centuries designating things that inevitably must become old-fashioned as the word itself goes on to the next modern thing. We have now invented the word postmodern, as if we could finally fix modern in time, but even postmodern (first recorded in 1949) will seem fusty in the end, perhaps sooner than modern will. Going back to Late Latin modernus, "modern," which is derived from modo in the sense "just now," the English word modern (first recorded at the beginning of the 16th century) was not originally concerned with anything that could be later considered old-fashioned. It simply meant "being at this time, now existing," an obsolete sense today. Beginning in the later 16th century, however, we see the word contrasted with the word ancient and also used of technology in a way that is clearly related to our own modern way of using the word. Modern was being applied specifically to what pertained to present times and also to what was new and not old-fashioned. Thus in the 19th and 20th centuries the word could be used to designate a movement in art, which is now being followed by postmodernism.

Excerpted from The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition © 1996 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from INSO Corporation; further reproduction and distribution in accordance with the Copyright Law of the United States. All rights reserved.
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TY for once again proving that SmarterthanYou is not as smart as a Fifth Grader. People like him make comments not even knowing how ridiculous they sound.

As to the topic of buying a "modern military rifle", even a military grade M-16 would cost a person anywhere from 14-16,000 dollars, and then you have the waiting period of up to a year, the additional fees for the FBI background check, etc. And experimental sniper rifle can cost anywhere from 30-50,000 dollars if you could find one to buy. Obviously the ability to buy such weapons is beyond the reach of the average person.
 
Superfreak said:
lol... you really are jealous of the US aren't ya? empty desert? LMAO
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I think he was referring to the emptiness of your mind, not your physical environment..

But then, why is the right wing so jealous of the US, and the system established buy the Founding Fathers?
 
iolo said:
You live in a vast otherwise-empty desert populated mainly by racist murderers, all armed to the teeth. We live in a small island full of decent people. You'll understand if your masters ever allow you out.
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Since when are sheep fuckers decent people?
 
"As to the topic of buying a "modern military rifle", even a military grade M-16 would cost a person anywhere from 14-16,000 dollars, and then you have the waiting period of up to a year, the additional fees for the FBI background check, etc. And experimental sniper rifle can cost anywhere from 30-50,000 dollars" OT #521
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I'm not sure why.
I surely hope the Pentagon doesn't pay that much.
$50K should buy a nice comfortable brand new BMW SUV.

Such a simple tool as a hand-carried firearm should cost orders of magnitude less. So I deduce you're referring to added on $costs of the legalities.
" if you could find one to buy. Obviously the ability to buy such weapons is beyond the reach of the average person." OT #521
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Yes.
And wording in the law our government is ostensibly enforcing is "shall not be infringed."
 
Old Trapper said:
TY for once again proving that SmarterthanYou is not as smart as a Fifth Grader. People like him make comments not even knowing how ridiculous they sound.

As to the topic of buying a "modern military rifle", even a military grade M-16 would cost a person anywhere from 14-16,000 dollars, and then you have the waiting period of up to a year, the additional fees for the FBI background check, etc. And experimental sniper rifle can cost anywhere from 30-50,000 dollars if you could find one to buy. Obviously the ability to buy such weapons is beyond the reach of the average person.
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its funny you claim i'm not smarter than you when you obviously don't know the laws to buy an automatic weapon LOL
 
SY #529

I don't either. But that's ignorance, not low intelligence.
In New York State, gun laws vary within the State. It's reportedly much more difficult, near impossible to obtain a license to carry concealed in NYC. But it's reportedly much easier in rural upState.

I gather the auto-fire weapons issue is federal, not State.
So these would be both overlapping jurisdictions, and multi-level government. One wouldn't need to know all the details to understand that's a recipe for bureaucratic headache. And if I may be forgiven a cynical perspective, quite likely deliberately so.
 
Old Trapper said:
If you think I am wrong then post the correct ones asshole, and quit acting the fool.

You ignorant fucks have only one answer, and no proof.
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How to Buy an Automatic Weapon

Many people believe it is illegal to buy an automatic weapon. However, while the National Firearms Act has made it more difficult to purchase these weapons, if you're willing to abide by the new regulations you can still buy an automatic weapon if it was lawfully registered before May 19, 1986.

Complete an ATF Form 4 (5320.4). The transferor, the one transferring or selling the automatic weapon and the transferee, the one receiving or buying the automatic weapon, must both complete sections of this form. The "Law Enforcement Certification" section must also be signed by the head of the local law enforcement, which is often the sheriff.

Include a 2 by 2-inch photograph of the transferee on each copy of the ATF form. This must be taken within the last year and include the transferee's address. This address cannot be a post office box.

Submit a fingerprint on FBI Form FD-258. This must be done by someone who is approved to take them, such as the police department. The fingerprints are accompanied by a photograph and a certificate which states that the individual seeking to obtain the automatic weapon has no justifiable reason that prevents them from obtaining an automatic weapon.

Check your local and state guidelines. If your area requires a permit or license to buy, receive or possess an automatic weapon you must send in a copy of the transferee's license or permit with the application and a $200 tax payment.

Send the completed form and proper tax payment to Bureau of ATF, P.O. Box 73201, Chicago, IL 60673. If you are approved to obtain an automatic weapon, the original form is returned to you with an approval stamped on it. If you are denied, you are refunded the tax payment.

:dealwithit:
 
Old Trapper said:
If you think I am wrong then post the correct ones asshole, and quit acting the fool.

You ignorant fucks have only one answer, and no proof.
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to buy your own automatic weapon requires 4 things, the background check that would normally come with purchasing a rifle, which is usually only 25 to 35 dollars. Then you have to buy the registration tax stamp for 200 dollars. then you have to have your chief law enforcement officer of the county sign off on it. that would be your country sheriff. then you have to have the money for the weapon itself. that is it.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
to buy your own automatic weapon requires 4 things, the background check that would normally come with purchasing a rifle, which is usually only 25 to 35 dollars. Then you have to buy the registration tax stamp for 200 dollars. then you have to have your chief law enforcement officer of the county sign off on it. that would be your country sheriff. then you have to have the money for the weapon itself. that is it.
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As usual, you got your head stuck up your ass sideways, and now cannot find the way out. Nothing you said disagrees with hat I said, however, it does leave a few things out. Also noted is the lack of any source for your bull shit:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-extremely-difficult-and-especially-expensive
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
How to Buy an Automatic Weapon

Many people believe it is illegal to buy an automatic weapon. However, while the National Firearms Act has made it more difficult to purchase these weapons, if you're willing to abide by the new regulations you can still buy an automatic weapon if it was lawfully registered before May 19, 1986.

Complete an ATF Form 4 (5320.4). The transferor, the one transferring or selling the automatic weapon and the transferee, the one receiving or buying the automatic weapon, must both complete sections of this form. The "Law Enforcement Certification" section must also be signed by the head of the local law enforcement, which is often the sheriff.

Include a 2 by 2-inch photograph of the transferee on each copy of the ATF form. This must be taken within the last year and include the transferee's address. This address cannot be a post office box.

Submit a fingerprint on FBI Form FD-258. This must be done by someone who is approved to take them, such as the police department. The fingerprints are accompanied by a photograph and a certificate which states that the individual seeking to obtain the automatic weapon has no justifiable reason that prevents them from obtaining an automatic weapon.

Check your local and state guidelines. If your area requires a permit or license to buy, receive or possess an automatic weapon you must send in a copy of the transferee's license or permit with the application and a $200 tax payment.

Send the completed form and proper tax payment to Bureau of ATF, P.O. Box 73201, Chicago, IL 60673. If you are approved to obtain an automatic weapon, the original form is returned to you with an approval stamped on it. If you are denied, you are refunded the tax payment.
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And that proves what I said wrong how? :dealwithit:
 
sear said:
I'm not sure why.
I surely hope the Pentagon doesn't pay that much.
$50K should buy a nice comfortable brand new BMW SUV.

Such a simple tool as a hand-carried firearm should cost orders of magnitude less. So I deduce you're referring to added on $costs of the legalities.
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This is a cheaper model of the one I was speaking of. A Canadian sniper killed a Taliban target at 2.3 miles. These laser guided rifles are not cheap:

World's Best Auto Target Feature and $50000 Expensive Rifle of 2017
 
OT #538

That's fine.
But I suspect vastly superior technology is available at substantially lower cost.

You've already seen what a Hellfire missile can do to t taxi.

But with state of the art advancing so fast, why not a feature guided missile the size of a cigar with enough explosive power to kill one human target?

It's the same result as the sniper rifle, but less vulnerable to cross-winds, the target stooping to pick up a paperclip, etc.

Firearms are so last Tuesday!!
 
sear said:
OT #538

That's fine.
But I suspect vastly superior technology is available at substantially lower cost.

You've already seen what a Hellfire missile can do to t taxi.

But with state of the art advancing so fast, why not a feature guided missile the size of a cigar with enough explosive power to kill one human target?

It's the same result as the sniper rifle, but less vulnerable to cross-winds, the target stooping to pick up a paperclip, etc.

Firearms are so last Tuesday!!
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Someone still has to aim them. Plus, they need to learn the weapon and the technology to make adjustments.
Myself, I've developed accurate loads and am very familiar with the weapons I have now. I don't need a laser
guided rifle.

But seriously, those who can afford, and can "jump through the hoops" to own one aren't anyone to be
concerned about, are they?
 
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