Why We Need Gun Restrictions

sear said:
SY #393
Right.
If society could afford to hire only PhD for beat COPs, we might improve their outcome.
But however good or bad beat COPs are, that doesn't render the layman more qualified. Law enforcement is complicated.
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Is that why Police Academy takes 6 whole weeks?
 
RB 60 said:
WTF!!! Do you serious think that a college education would better prepare police? The best cops were/are trained by our military.
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Most effective?
Certainly not the best.
I had a twenty something officer draw on me in my own driveway and threaten to shoot my dog. I live way out in the country, that POS may have been well equipped for a city.
 
sear said:
I find your counter interesting.
I've wondered for example why those living North of the Mason / Dixon line seemed in the 18th & 19th centuries more prosperous. Why did the North, the Yankees win the U.S. War of Northern Aggression?

Please pardon me if the following is an oversimplification:
North or South, we all need some basic essentials.
- A home.
- A water supply.
- Food.

BUT !!

Those in the North have some additional adversities Southerners are spared by their climate.
- The growing season is shorter in the North, thus reducing the number of crops that can be grown there.
- The home heating season is longer in the North, and more severe. That necessitates both:
- more expensive houses, better insulated, AND
- more heating fuel, in those centuries, often firewood, a labor-intensive heating fuel.

So with these and other adversities, why was it not the South that had the advantage?

Could it be that Northerners accustomed to dealing with greater adversity are simply more robust competitors?

And if that is a viable explanation for the prevailing North in centuries past, might a similar dynamic apply to professional athletes? What might to the layman seem to be an impediment to maximized professional athleticism may actually augment such physical prowess.

One other example comes to mind.
Black women have two strikes against them.
a) They're Black. (in a White dominated culture)
b) They're women. (in a male dominated culture)
Yet their suicide rate is disproportionately low.

Why?

Could it be that they're so accustomed to dealing with adversity that the thing that would drive others to suicide leave Black women unfettered?
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The North won because of railroads, industrialization,
better access to financing and the righteousness of their cause.
 
You seem to be conflating police command, such as chiefs of police, with "society".
They may have a population Venn overlap. But their preferences are likely to be dis-similar.
"Society doesn't want intelligent cops...they want bully boys who follow orders without question.
Try again." R #440
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It is folly to address a nation that is literally hundreds of millions of sentient individuals, address the group as "society", and then ascribe a single mindset to it.

I'm a member of society. And stupid COPs remain a pet peeve of mine.
"Is that why Police Academy takes 6 whole weeks?" R #441
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Some jurisdictions may require applicants to have a high school diploma.
Their budgets are usually severely limited.

Jurisdictions with enough funding to exercise a choice rarely if ever skip the college prerequisite. In my opinion the few years of college seems to make quite a difference in job performance. In police work, even attorneys at law will make mistakes.
 
"The North won because of railroads, industrialization,
better access to financing and the righteousness of their cause." R #445
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- right -

And infrastructure of prosperity such as "railroads, industrialization" is built on land. Rumor has it, there is some land somewhere down South.
So the South could have had that, but didn't.

But the North did.

Why?
"better access to financing" R #445
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That's somewhat circular.
"and the righteousness of their cause." R
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If righteousness was determinative, wouldn't this be a discussion by aboriginal Americans of how the aboriginal Americans vanquished the European invaders?

After Lee's surrender to Grant at Appomattox April 9, 1865 both Confederate and Union troops rode trains to return to their homes. But due to the persistent racism of the day, victorious Negro Union troops were required to ride in the back of the train, while defeated White Confederate troops rode in front. Escaped slave / abolitionist / journalist / influential lecturer Frederick Douglass responded:
"We Negroes love our country. We fought for it. We ask only that we be treated as well as those that fought against it."
 
Old Trapper said:
The right wing will never admit it since common sense is not their forte, however, this is a good example of why we do need more restrictions. And please, for the useful idiot toadies, don't try to make this into gun confiscation like you NRA masters have told you:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/killed-sh...o-shows-florida-store-owner/story?id=58506648
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There you go again, boy, thinking something is common sense because it's what you personally believe.

Common sense would say if you claim someone shouldn't own something, YOU should be the one to take it from them. I don't believe you have the guts to try and confiscate what I have.
 
sear said:
- right -

And infrastructure of prosperity such as "railroads, industrialization" is built on land. Rumor has it, there is some land somewhere down South.
So the South could have had that, but didn't.

But the North did.

Why?

That's somewhat circular.

If righteousness was determinative, wouldn't this be a discussion by aboriginal Americans of how the aboriginal Americans vanquished the European invaders?

After Lee's surrender to Grant at Appomattox April 9, 1865 both Confederate and Union troops rode trains to return to their homes. But due to the persistent racism of the day, victorious Negro Union troops were required to ride in the back of the train, while defeated White Confederate troops rode in front. Escaped slave / abolitionist / journalist / influential lecturer Frederick Douglass responded:
"We Negroes love our country. We fought for it. We ask only that we be treated as well as those that fought against it."
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It isn't circular.
When Lincoln had trouble getting financing he printed greenbacks.

The South didn't have as much railway or industry because of the agrarian nature of slavery.
If you don't understand why feeling righteous about one's cause aids victory....
 
sear said:
You seem to be conflating police command, such as chiefs of police, with "society".
They may have a population Venn overlap. But their preferences are likely to be dis-similar.

It is folly to address a nation that is literally hundreds of millions of sentient individuals, address the group as "society", and then ascribe a single mindset to it.

I'm a member of society. And stupid COPs remain a pet peeve of mine.

Some jurisdictions may require applicants to have a high school diploma.
Their budgets are usually severely limited.

Jurisdictions with enough funding to exercise a choice rarely if ever skip the college prerequisite. In my opinion the few years of college seems to make quite a difference in job performance. In police work, even attorneys at law will make mistakes.
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Police chiefs don't make laws, they enforce them.
Jordan v New London makes my point.
 
"It isn't circular.
When Lincoln had trouble getting financing he printed greenbacks.

The South didn't have as much railway or industry because of the agrarian nature of slavery.
If you don't understand why feeling righteous about one's cause aids victory.... " R #453
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That is PRECISELY why it's circular!

In shorthand: the banking cliche' is:
Those that need the bank loan don't qualify, and
those that qualify don't need the bank loan.

The confederacy had printing presses too. But their paper wasn't as good a Lincoln's.
Lincoln (aka "the North") had more infrastructure, and thus more of what attends it.

The U.S. War of Northern Aggression killed more Americans (Union & Reb) than any other U.S. War.

Those living today may in our nation of over 300M, reflect with grief over the 58K we lost in Vietnam, or the few hundred we lost in the elder Bush's Gulf War, or perhaps the 4.5K we lost in the younger Bush's Iraq War.
Imagine how out of our 19th century population, our loss of well over half a million Americans affected our War-torn country.
 
GuilleX said:
I shouldn't have to cite US 18 to a man such as yourself...well versed in the militia and all that crap. Suck it old man. You don't know what you're talking about.
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Ahhhh, love it when the fucking idiots poke their heads out of their ass to once again demonstrate their ignorance. You, being the ignorant ass you are, stated that Congress had modified/eliminated the Militia by US code. Now, what part of US 18 are you referring to?
 
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