A point about Elizabeth Warren's Native American Ancestry

Don bet her she has no Native American heritage

he lost the bet, you've lost your mind

At the 2:13 mark, Trump says "if it shows you're an Indian" He does not say "if it shows you have any Native American Heritage" None of this really matters though, since Trump never made this hypothetical bet.


 
just FYI

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If it's your anniversary or something

Thanks you ugly old hag.

I'll keep that in mind.

Anniversary is in February, though. We celebrate the day we went out on the blind date that neither of us was interested in.

Some friends (a couple) we had in common insisted...and they were dead on in saying that we would hit it off and make a great couple.

That was (will be) 36 years ago on February 3rd next year. A blind date gone ape-shit.

She is still as fine looking as she was back then.

My guess she looks better than you...although that is not saying much, because my guess is you are an ugly old hag.
 
As a reminder: she claimed she had Native American ancestry, based on family oral history indicating a couple of her grandparents had some Native American blood. Her relatives have since confirmed such family oral history did, in fact, exist, and DNA tests have confirmed that she does, in fact, have Native American ancestry.

and AGAIN, no, the DNA test confirmed no such thing. But you are to intellectually dishonest to acknowledge this has already been proven to you.
 
Her test revealed she has less than the average white Person living in America.

Her test revealed a range of possibilities. Most white people living in America have no Native American ancestry at all, so she has more Native American ancestry than most.

She claimed minority status on government form.

Which government form?

She specified Cherokee as her ancestral heredity.

Yes, and that remains the most likely source of her Native American DNA, in light of her family's geographic history.

She’s been proven a fraud.

No. As you're now aware, not only is it clear she was recounting family history that she really did hear growing up, but that the family history had roots in actual Native American ancestry.
 
No. As you're quite aware, the reason right-wingers tried to mock her for what turned out to be a true claim is that they fear she'll run for president. It's the same reason the same bunch of yahoos pretended to doubt that Obama was born in the US, and why they speculated about him being a secret Muslim, or why they pretended to be outraged that Hillary Clinton used private email for work, or why they pretended to believe the Swift Boat hit squad's lies about Kerry's service, or why they incessantly pushed the lie that Gore claimed he invented the Internet. When they identify a potential threat to their political hegemony, they'll dutifully repeat any old nonsense handed to them by way of the apparatchiks at Fox News.

Again, no one except left wing nuts are claiming that she was proven correct. No one. 1.6% is the max and that is assuming the assumptions on ancestry of Mexicans, Peruvians and Columbians being 'close enough' to Native Americans in general. But again, you are being intellectually dishonest, so I doubt you will admit your gross error any time soon.
 
Do you mean this video? If this is what you are referring to, he never promised Pocahontas anything.

First, let's set your racism aside and refer to her as Senator Warren, rather than repeat Trump's despicable racial slur. We don't need to descend to his level, do we?

Anyway, to your point, it's true that he framed his promise in the context of throwing a test kit at her during a hypothetical debate. That debate hasn't happened, and as such if he wants to cower behind that rhetorical framing device, because he doesn't want to make a donation to charity, it's not like anyone can force him to man up.... nor can anyone force his reflexive apologists from lining up to excuse him on the grounds of that framing device. But the implication was clear. He was feigning skepticism about her having Native American ancestry -- essentially the same racist gambit he used against Obama when he feigned skepticism about Obama being born in the US. Warren called him on it with the DNA test, and now he's squirming. As funny as that has been to watch, it's been even funnier to watch his boot-lickers lining up to make excuses for him.
 
Again, no one except left wing nuts are claiming that she was proven correct

Actually, everyone other than the usual right-wing know nothings has conceded she has been proven correct.

1.6% is the max

Yes -- and now, can you tell me how many times more 1.6% is relative to the "1/100 of a percentile" that some particularly stupid right-wingers were citing?

.... I doubt you will admit your gross error any time soon.

Obviously, if you want someone to admit an error, you need to identify one first.
 
and AGAIN, no, the DNA test confirmed no such thing.

As you're well aware, it did. Keep in mind, nobody can force you to disgrace yourself for Trump this way. It's a choice you're making. You can step back, take a deep breath, then decide simply to acknowledge what you know to be true. I hope you'll find enough of a sense of honor to do so.
 
As you're well aware, it did. Keep in mind, nobody can force you to disgrace yourself for Trump this way. It's a choice you're making. You can step back, take a deep breath, then decide simply to acknowledge what you know to be true. I hope you'll find enough of a sense of honor to do so.

Again, no it did not. You are a dishonest piece of shit.

Do you acknowledge that the DNA professional stated that he used Columbian, Peruvian and Mexican DNA in place of Native American? Yes or No?

Or are you going to keep pretending you don't see that?
 
Actually, everyone other than the usual right-wing know nothings has conceded she has been proven correct.



Yes -- and now, can you tell me how many times more 1.6% is relative to the "1/100 of a percentile" that some particularly stupid right-wingers were citing?



Obviously, if you want someone to admit an error, you need to identify one first.
I have already pointed out your errors. YOU continue to ignore them.

and yes, it is indeed only left wingers that think she was proven correct. Even the Cherokee nation says she is wrong to quote such nonsense.
 
Again, no it did not. You are a dishonest piece of shit.

Do you acknowledge that the DNA professional stated that he used Columbian, Peruvian and Mexican DNA in place of Native American? Yes or No?

Yes. Do you acknowledge that based on that the DNA professional was able to estimate the range of her Native American ancestry? Or are you going to keep pretending this rote right-wing talking point somehow obscures the fact the test established that she has Native American ancestors? Try to control your emotional outbursts long enough to provide a substantive response. Good luck!
 
I have already pointed out your errors

What errors do you imagine I made? Be specific, please.

Even the Cherokee nation says she is wrong to quote such nonsense.

If you want to point to an expert in genetics, who just happens to be a member of the Cherokee nation, I'd be happy to consider what he or she has to say on the topic. If, instead, you're just referring to the politicians who speak on behalf of that political unit, why would I care what they have to say on a scientific question like this? Keep in mind, we're not discussing whether or not Warren has political status as a member of that tribe -- she has never said she does. We're discussing whether she has Native American ancestry -- which, as you know, she does.
 
First, let's set your racism aside and refer to her as Senator Warren, rather than repeat Trump's despicable racial slur. We don't need to descend to his level, do we?

Which Pocahontas do think it is offensive to, the white one, or the Native American one?
 
Yes. Do you acknowledge that based on that the DNA professional was able to estimate the range of her Native American ancestry? Or are you going to keep pretending this rote right-wing talking point somehow obscures the fact the test established that she has Native American ancestors? Try to control your emotional outbursts long enough to provide a substantive response. Good luck!

No. I do not. Because using Mexican, Columbian and Peruvian does not indicate she is Native American. So do stop lying.
 
What errors do you imagine I made? Be specific, please.



If you want to point to an expert in genetics, who just happens to be a member of the Cherokee nation, I'd be happy to consider what he or she has to say on the topic. If, instead, you're just referring to the politicians who speak on behalf of that political unit, why would I care what they have to say on a scientific question like this? Keep in mind, we're not discussing whether or not Warren has political status as a member of that tribe -- she has never said she does. We're discussing whether she has Native American ancestry -- which, as you know, she does.

Cherokee nations Secretary of State stated that she was wrong. They only allow those that are at least 1/16th Cherokee to claim that they are Cherokee. That is a fact. He also stated the DNA test is not appropriate given the Cherokee nation hasn't provided its own samples.

By the DNA expert you so believe in, she is somewhere between 0.9% and 1.6% Mexican/Columbian/Peruvian. Not Native American.
 
Anyway, to your point, it's true that he framed his promise in the context of throwing a test kit at her during a hypothetical debate. That debate hasn't happened

I am glad to see that Trump never made any deal or bet with Pocahontas in regard to a dna test. The fake media has been pimping the notion that he had actually offered Pocahontas a chance to take a DNA test in exchange for a million bucks. Obviously, that was fake news.
 
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