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A point about Elizabeth Warren's Native American Ancestry
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What the hell are you babbling about?
Get someone to help you compose a coherent sentence...with a coherent notion to share.
As a reminder: she claimed she had Native American ancestry, based on family oral history indicating a couple of her grandparents had some Native American blood. Her relatives have since confirmed such family oral history did, in fact, exist, and DNA tests have confirmed that she does, in fact, have Native American ancestry.
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No. As you're quite aware, the reason right-wingers tried to mock her for what turned out to be a true claim is that they fear she'll run for president. It's the same reason the same bunch of yahoos pretended to doubt that Obama was born in the US, and why they speculated about him being a secret Muslim, or why they pretended to be outraged that Hillary Clinton used private email for work, or why they pretended to believe the Swift Boat hit squad's lies about Kerry's service, or why they incessantly pushed the lie that Gore claimed he invented the Internet. When they identify a potential threat to their political hegemony, they'll dutifully repeat any old nonsense handed to them by way of the apparatchiks at Fox News.
Yes -- that's why I qualified my own use of "successful." I view true success as making a positive difference for humanity.... but that's hard to measure. Measuring the advance of a person's fortune, by comparison, is easy. In terms of that material success, someone born rich can be very economically successful without ever working a day in his life. Trump is a great example. Many on the right would call him a successful businessman. Yet not only does he fail my test of success (he made his money preying on gambling addicts and gullible investors, and certainly didn't make the world better), he also isn't successful even in the sense of having gotten a decent return on the money his father handed him. Any imbecile with an index fund would have gotten a MUCH better return without lifting a finger. All Trump's efforts to stiff contractors, sucker rubes, exploit women with his pageants, run the USFL into the ground, and so on, didn't even achieve a mediocre rate of return. He was a huge failure as an entrepreneur, even in those investing terms. However, because he started out so very wealthy, even a markedly sub-par return was still enough to make him a billionaire and thus satisfy many people's understanding of success.
That truly is the case, Oneuli...but it is apparent that Superfreak is not interested in the truth...
...he/she is only interested in promoting this fiction the conservatives have concocted.
No getting through that crap.
But I admire your tenacity in attempting to do so.
Getin the ring
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And I admire you guys continuing to display dumb a$$ thought process.
Pocahontas is not a Native American, in no way shape or form, and for her to continue to say so is embarrassing, and frankly just ended her political ambitions.
but that's fine with me, keep beating her war drum for her
Pocahontas is not a Native American, in no way shape or form, and for her to continue to say so is embarrassing, and frankly just ended her political ambitions.
but that's fine with me, keep beating her war drum for her
I believe that the Native american nation has suggested that she stop beating ' that drum....
Truth: A Jeep Grand "Cherokee" (as quoted by Ben Shapiro) has more Native American Blood than this idiot female who is rapidly burying herself in order to prove she knows how to use a shovel.Really? 1/100 of a percentile that can easily be dismissed with the false positive due to certain types of European ancestry being diluted with Asian DNA? This proves that she has CHEROKEE blood running through her veins as originally claimed?
To "ME".....personally this is far worse than representing STOLEN VALOR as did Blumenthal's documented lies.
Another thing that Shapiro had right: If this weeks news cycle was represented in analogical terms: Trump would be the "Lone Ranger"...…..horse face would be "Silver" and the Fake native American would be "Tonto" as played by a Hollywood actress after a couch casting session.
The percentage was given as a range. Right wingers, being deeply dishonest people, have cited only the very low end of the range. The higher end is 1/64, which, as you know, is vastly more than 1/100th of a percentile.
Does that prove she has Cherokee blood? No. DNA tests aren't perfected to the point of identifying a particular tribal origin. What it shows is that she was almost certainly telling the truth about having been told a family history of such origins. Of course, we already knew she was almost certainly telling the truth about that, since reporters have checked with other relatives of hers (many of whom are Republicans), who confirmed they heard the same stories. So, she honestly passed along family history, and the Republicans dutifully pretended to think she was lying -- and then wound up with egg on their faces when their endless demands for DNA tests ended up showing that she did, in fact, have Native American ancestry. Oops!
As for the "Stolen Valor" argument, it's pretty weak. Even if it hadn't turned out that Warren was telling the truth, it would simply have been a deception about ancestry -- something that is an unearned accident of birth, anyway. It's similar to the way Trump repeatedly lies and says his father was born in Germany, which he wasn't. Is that "worse than stolen valor"? No. There's a reason that you probably haven't even heard about those repeated lies: a politician lying about family details predating his or her birth just isn't seen as important, even when done for personal advantage (the way Trump has used his father's fictitious German birth to assert a kinship with the EU when that's politically convenient). In the long list of vile Trump lies, his lies about where his father was born hardly even merit a mention. The same is true for the "stolen honor" of Trump repeatedly lying about graduating at the top of his class in college. It's slimy, but it's relatively trivial, so it's seldom brought up. But, as you know, Warren doesn't supply the same broad list of serious personal misconduct to attack as Trump does, and so the right-wingers must take what they can get, and that included trying to turn her ancestry claims into a major scandal, back when they thought she was lying. And they're at such a loss for what else to attack her about, that they're not letting go of that one even now that they know she was telling the truth.
Her test revealed she has less than the average white Person living in America. She claimed minority status on government form. She specified Cherokee as her ancestral heredity. She’s been proven a fraud.
Do you mean this video? If this is what you are referring to, he never promised Pocahontas anything.
Look at what Trump says at 1 minute mark in the video. He says: "let's say I'm debating Pocahontas..." This is where he sets a hypothetical setting for some point in the future. Also, note that he is not addressing her, he is talking about her to his crowd.
Now, look at the 1:25 mark in the video. "and in the middle of the debate,..." Here, he is describing the proposed time in the hypothetical debate where he would "toss her a kit". Note that this is only a hypothetical debate that has not occurred, and that he has not made any commitments to Pocahontas. He has only joked with his rally crowd about what he might do in a hypothetical debate in the future.
No there is not. If there was, you would have posted it.
The test DOES NOT "reveal she has less than the average white person living in America."
That is a misunderstanding of what has been revealed...and the usual right-wing bat-shit crazy need to denigrate people like Elizabeth Warren.
If you truly want to understand what the test revealed (I seriously doubt you do)...here is a link to a fairly decent analysis of it:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...es_fact-check-warren-500am:homepage/story-ans
Trump is not lying, he never made this bet. The notion that he did make this bet is just fake news that is being perpetuated by the media. They take a tiny clip of video Trump talking about a dna challenge, but the tiny little clip is way out of context. Watch the video yourself, instead of relying on the lefty media to filter and edit news for lefty ears.
Look at what Trump says at 1 minute mark in the video. He says: "let's say I'm debating Pocahontas..." This is where he sets a hypothetical setting for some point in the future. Also, note that he is not addressing her, he is talking about her to his crowd.
Now, look at the 1:25 mark in the video. "and in the middle of the debate,..." Here, he is describing the proposed time in the hypothetical debate where he would "toss her a kit". Note that this is only a hypothetical debate that has not occurred, and that he has not made any commitments to Pocahontas. He has only joked with his rally crowd about what he might do in a hypothetical debate in the future.
Lol, that's about the only kind of reply lefties can make to this.
Lefties can only bark and growl in reply to my post the way an angry dog in a cage does. There are no counter arguments that can be made about it.