‘There is NO GOD’ Stephen Hawking’s final revelation of the afterlife REVEALED

Wolverine said:
Maybe try not being so offensive when you try and debate!

Slow down...calm down. Your posts are becoming incoherent.

As for your question...Where did it all begin?

I DO NOT FUCKING KNOW...

...AND NEITHER DO YOU.

If you want to guess it started with some god...who then started to worry that humans beating their meat was offensive...

...I am going to suggest you are NUTS...as well as delusional.
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Francis gets that way when his Depends have filled up...
 
He came up with an explanation of why God is unnecessary in explaining the existence of the universe. But for me, it boils down to who started it, that there has to be a starter. It fails because then that starter needs another starter. It is turtles all the way down. Religion just adds more complexity, which is not how yoiu arrive at truths.It is even worse when you decide on a god that is involved in the daily workings of this speck in the huge univrse. it is just crazy.
 
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Frank Apisa said:
There is nothing remotely logical about that "logic."

Fact is, there is no way to come to...

There is at least one god

There are no gods

It is more likely that there is at least one god than that there are none

It is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one

...using logic, reason, math, or science.

All one can do is to make a blind guess in those directions.
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Positing multiple creative agents is a clear violation of Occam’s, Frankie.

The point is it’s by no means illogical to believe the Abrahamic God is the Creator.
 
Wolverine said:
I already told him, INNATE KNOWLEDGE OF HIS CREATOR (GOD), evidently he doesn't want to quit beating his meat. He knows God exists, but prefers to live a sinful lifestyle. To acknowledge God, means he would have to acknowledge his sin, and he doesn't want to. You are correct though, they sure make a big deal about something that they say doesn't exist.
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I do not KNOW any gods exist...AND NEITHER DO YOU. I am honest enough to acknowledge that...you are not. The phoniness of your position is obvious.


Deal with it.

Supposedly, YOUR god wants you to be truthful. YOU really should stop lying. Your god might exist...and condemn you to torture for eternity for lying.
 
Wolverine said:
Maybe try not being so offensive when you try and debate!
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The correct wording would have been, "...when you try TO debate." "Try and debate" is a grammatical structure a grammar school kid might use.

Slow down...calm down. Your posts are becoming incoherent.

As for your question...Where did it all begin?

I DO NOT FUCKING KNOW...

...AND NEITHER DO YOU.

If you want to guess it started with some god...who then started to worry that humans beating their meat was offensive...

...I am going to suggest you are NUTS...as well as delusional.
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Thanks for repeating that.

Now...take heed; put it to use. You will be a better person for it.

IF your god does exist...it shouldn't mind you acknowledging that you do not know the stuff you do not know.
 
Darth Omar said:
Positing multiple creative agents is a clear violation of Occam’s, Frankie.
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Occam's razor is one of the two most worthless bits of philosophic dross in existence. (Pascal's wager being the second.) Using Occam's razor you get a pancake flat planet Earth smack dab in the middle of everything that exists.

It is worthless.

Use it the way amateur philosophers (like you) use it...and you will almost always arrive at totally illogical conclusions.

The point is it’s by no means illogical to believe the Abrahamic God is the Creator.
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There is nothing wrong with blindly guessing that the Washington Monument is "the Creator."

But attempting to arrive there (or where you went) by LOGIC is patently illogical, Darth.

Try putting it into a syllogistic format.

Give me your P1 and P2...and let's see what C (probably C's) we can arrive at.

Better yet, let me give you the C you want...and you provide the P1 and P2 that gets us there.

C: Therefore the god of Abraham is the creator.
 
it seems the general consensus among Christians is that they will be happy in heaven while the consensus of unbelievers is they would prefer hell......don't you just love it when a good plan comes together?.......
 
Darth Omar said:
Hawking seemed to invoke Occam’s in dispensing with God—he was speaking as a philosopher and not an astrophysicist.

The better philosophical argument is the Kalam Argument coupled with the apparent design in the universe. Then the existence of God becomes a very reasonable proposition.
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'Apparent' being the keyword. Occasional natural phenomena look as though they were designed consciously. When a caveman saw them, he was bound to think it was either other people or Gods. It's what a caveman, with no knoweledge of math, physics, chemistry, atoms, gravity, nuclear forces, surface tension, diffusion, crystal formation, geology, space time, the earth's core, shape, size, why wind exists, or tides, the moon, sun, stars, how they work, radiation, photons, etc., would think. If I were him I would believe a God did it all.

What's your excuse?
 
"the apparent design in the universe." RL #154
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Frank Apisa said:

All Stephen Hawking could do is make a blind guess about whether a GOD exists (or gods exist)...or no gods exist.

That is all any of us can do...make a blind guess.

Some blindly guess there is a God.

Some blindly guess there are gods.

Some blindly guess there are no gods.

And some of us just say, "Why bother?"
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Pipe down loudmouth. There's nothing blind about science.
 
TOP said:
Is there anything wrong with believing in God?
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You mean Allah?

Yes, there is something wrong with that. It holds science and technology back. Were it not for various religions we would be living on other planets now, and four-wheeled cars would be ancient history.
 
Guille said:
It's too bad he died, I would have liked to hear what he had to say as a follow up. All you can prove is God exists but you can't prove God doesn't exist. I think his follow ups would have been very interesting.
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There is no proof that God exists. If so, provide it.
 
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