Why I prefer Trader Trump not be impeached.

Jarod

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Unless there is some very vulgar treason or action that is particularly dangerous to the security of the American State, I think it is better not to impeach the trader Trump.

We have a sickness in our nation, after seeing the crowd in Tampa shoot the finger at the Media, yell obscenities and promote the Q conspiracy theories I am dismayed at how a large group of Americans have lost any bit of decorum or ability to behave with a modicum of dignity or self-respect. They also have never been taught a speck of critical thinking skills. This clanish thug behavior is infecting some minority, but more of a minority than any other modern time. If the United States is to survive as an example of how to shine for much of the uneducated world we cannot allow this group to grow. Many nations, mostly poor ones with inferior education systems are stuck in the vice grip of this type of mob rule, electing leaders who chose power over intelligence and personal gain over national pride. We have come a long way from, "Ask now what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

Impeaching Trader Trump would only poke this bear. Sadly, I think the way to handle them is to ignore them and let them fade into history. You can never prove them wrong with logic, or any other method, they simply feel entitled to be right and therefore they believe they are right, facts no longer fit into the equation. Its not new or limited to political party, consider the birther movement, or even further back those who believed GWB knew ahead of time about the 9-11 attacks. The difference is that this time they eked out a win at the presidential level. An accident of history allowed one of them to become president.

America is strong and built to withstand this, four years of tyrannical behavior in the oval office is not enough to dismantle the democratic institutions (deep state) that were designed to protect us. We have a Congress that, while Majority Republican, has refused to give the despot much in the way of significant legislative wins and a Court system that has throttled his most radical efforts. We will soon right the ship, correct the course and move forward, but an impeachment just might be enough to cement the minority of rubes in a permanent violent rebellious frame. As I learned when a former poster on this board told me he and his like minded American brotheren would put a bullet in my head if I kept spouting liberal ideas, violence is the result of this groups realization that they have lost the logic argument. For many of them there is no hope that a renewed renaissance will teach them reason and logic, they are lost to the teachings of Copernicus or Montaigne much less Rojas or Avila. This minority, when confronted with a logic based reality will only grow violent and angry, not more reasonable or intelligent. Let the checks and balances of our government work their designed effect, allow the system to even itself out and as designed the majority will (I think) right the ship.

Don't impeach Trader Trump, let him fade away.
 
Impeachment would just be a 'vent' for Democrats, and like Clinton's impeachment for the GOP, would likely bring some backlash at the polls.

They shouldn't pursue this, and they should stop talking about it. Fight Trump legislatively and by winning campaigns.
 
Impeachment would just be a 'vent' for Democrats, and like Clinton's impeachment for the GOP, would likely bring some backlash at the polls.

They shouldn't pursue this, and they should stop talking about it. Fight Trump legislatively and by winning campaigns.

I still want Mueller to issue a report outlining his crimes, and after his presidency would consider supporting a prosecution, but impeachment might likely be a bridge too far.
 
Trump is a clear and present danger to this nation, through sheer incompetence, through his inability to represent the United States on the world stage, through his affinity for authoritarianism and hostility to democracy, to the fact that he is simply stupid and dim-witted by presidential standards. .

I do not think he will be impeached unless his approval ratings hover consistently down in the 20s, substantial evidence of criminal intent is uncovered, and at least some Republicans decide to put country over party.

But, I think this Orange Pig should be removed from office, in my opinion. I abhor Mike Pence, but I do not think he will embarrass the United States internationally, I do not think he will insult allies, and I think he has some capacity to represent the office of the President of the United States in a manner a great nation is deserving of.
 
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Trump is a clear and present danger to this nation, through sheer incompetence, through his inability to represent the United States on the world stage, through his affinity for authoritarianism and hostility to democracy, to the fact that he is simply stupid and dim-witted by presidential standards. .

I do not think he will be impeached unless his approval ratings hover consistently down in the 20s, substantial evidence of criminal intent is uncovered, and at least some Republicans decide to put country over party.

But, I think this Orange Pig should be removed from office, in my opinion. I abhor Mike Pence, but I do not think he will embarrass the United States internationally, I do not think he will insult allies, and I think he has some capacity to represent the office of the United States in a manner a great nation is deserving of.

Our strong nation, with a more Democratic congress (how much more I don't know) will survive 2.5 more years. We have already seen him at his most powerful and he accomplished little.
 
Our strong nation, with a more Democratic congress (how much more I don't know) will survive 2.5 more years. We have already seen him at his most powerful and he accomplished little.

Things can change, and they can change rapidly.

In 2000, I thought George Dumbya Bush was a danger to the United States. A lot of conservatives said, "yeah, he is dumb. But he will surround himself with great people!"

Two failed wars, trillions of dollars spent invading nations that did not threaten us, and a very close call with a Second Great Republican Depression is what happened after I was told not to worry too much about Dumbya.
 
Unless there is some very vulgar treason or action that is particularly dangerous to the security of the American State, I think it is better not to impeach the trader Trump.

So you are finally realizing that the Mueller investigation is a great big NOTHING burger. Good for you.

We have a sickness in our nation,

Yes we do; it is called liberalism. It is sick, twisted, full of lies and hates America greatness. We have to keep defeating it at the polls.

Maybe you dullards will finally self deport to some Socialist Utopia. :rofl2:
 
Impeachment would just be a 'vent' for Democrats, and like Clinton's impeachment for the GOP, would likely bring some backlash at the polls.

They shouldn't pursue this, and they should stop talking about it. Fight Trump legislatively and by winning campaigns.

I am amused that you and Jarod, who seldom get anything right, think the Democratic Party of the Jackass wouldn't make this their first agenda item if they did win in November.
 
I still want Mueller to issue a report outlining his crimes, and after his presidency would consider supporting a prosecution, but impeachment might likely be a bridge too far.

I can't wait for his report. Sessions needs to demand something immediately to determine whether this farce should continue. Meanwhile, back at the courtroom and Manafort trail, the intelligent Judge is kicking Mueller's prosecutors asses. :rofl2:
 
Trump is a clear and present danger to this nation, through sheer incompetence, through his inability to represent the United States on the world stage, through his affinity for authoritarianism and hostility to democracy, to the fact that he is simply stupid and dim-witted by presidential standards. .

I do not think he will be impeached unless his approval ratings hover consistently down in the 20s, substantial evidence of criminal intent is uncovered, and at least some Republicans decide to put country over party.

But, I think this Orange Pig should be removed from office, in my opinion. I abhor Mike Pence, but I do not think he will embarrass the United States internationally, I do not think he will insult allies, and I think he has some capacity to represent the office of the President of the United States in a manner a great nation is deserving of.

:lolup:Another massive pile of lunatic bile. :rofl2: I do hope you assholes self deport when Trump is re-elected. I'll help you anti-America assholes pack.
 
Unless there is some very vulgar treason or action that is particularly dangerous to the security of the American State, I think it is better not to impeach the trader Trump.

We have a sickness in our nation, after seeing the crowd in Tampa shoot the finger at the Media, yell obscenities and promote the Q conspiracy theories I am dismayed at how a large group of Americans have lost any bit of decorum or ability to behave with a modicum of dignity or self-respect. They also have never been taught a speck of critical thinking skills. This clanish thug behavior is infecting some minority, but more of a minority than any other modern time. If the United States is to survive as an example of how to shine for much of the uneducated world we cannot allow this group to grow. Many nations, mostly poor ones with inferior education systems are stuck in the vice grip of this type of mob rule, electing leaders who chose power over intelligence and personal gain over national pride. We have come a long way from, "Ask now what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

Impeaching Trader Trump would only poke this bear. Sadly, I think the way to handle them is to ignore them and let them fade into history. You can never prove them wrong with logic, or any other method, they simply feel entitled to be right and therefore they believe they are right, facts no longer fit into the equation. Its not new or limited to political party, consider the birther movement, or even further back those who believed GWB knew ahead of time about the 9-11 attacks. The difference is that this time they eked out a win at the presidential level. An accident of history allowed one of them to become president.

America is strong and built to withstand this, four years of tyrannical behavior in the oval office is not enough to dismantle the democratic institutions (deep state) that were designed to protect us. We have a Congress that, while Majority Republican, has refused to give the despot much in the way of significant legislative wins and a Court system that has throttled his most radical efforts. We will soon right the ship, correct the course and move forward, but an impeachment just might be enough to cement the minority of rubes in a permanent violent rebellious frame. As I learned when a former poster on this board told me he and his like minded American brotheren would put a bullet in my head if I kept spouting liberal ideas, violence is the result of this groups realization that they have lost the logic argument. For many of them there is no hope that a renewed renaissance will teach them reason and logic, they are lost to the teachings of Copernicus or Montaigne much less Rojas or Avila. This minority, when confronted with a logic based reality will only grow violent and angry, not more reasonable or intelligent. Let the checks and balances of our government work their designed effect, allow the system to even itself out and as designed the majority will (I think) right the ship.

Don't impeach Trader Trump, let him fade away.

you ^^^ have lost your mind, seek help
 
Our strong nation, with a more Democratic congress (how much more I don't know) will survive 2.5 more years. We have already seen him at his most powerful and he accomplished little.

What will you do if Trump gets a second term? Kill yourself? :rofl2: I know, too much wishful thinking on my part.
 
We have a sickness in our nation, after seeing the crowd in Tampa shoot the finger at the Media, yell obscenities and promote the Q conspiracy theories I am dismayed at how a large group of Americans have lost any bit of decorum or ability to behave with a modicum of dignity or self-respect. They also have never been taught a speck of critical thinking skills. This clanish thug behavior is infecting some minority, but more of a minority than any other modern time. If the United States is to survive as an example of how to shine for much of the uneducated world we cannot allow this group to grow. Many nations, mostly poor ones with inferior education systems are stuck in the vice grip of this type of mob rule, electing leaders who chose power over intelligence and personal gain over national pride. We have come a long way from, "Ask now what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country."

you can start with the obama and union supporters that attacked and sometimes assaulted the ACA protestors and different events around the nation for lack of civility and conspiracy theory promotions......
 
Things can change, and they can change rapidly.

In 2000, I thought George Dumbya Bush was a danger to the United States. A lot of conservatives said, "yeah, he is dumb. But he will surround himself with great people!"

Two failed wars, trillions of dollars spent invading nations that did not threaten us, and a very close call with a Second Great Republican Depression is what happened after I was told not to worry too much about Dumbya.

You don't "think" you cretinous partisan hack; you erupt and emote ignorantly. Dunce.
 
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you ^^^ have lost your mind, seek help

Haven't the ALL lost it? :rofl2:

MAGA Baby!!
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you can start with the obama and union supporters that attacked and sometimes assaulted the ACA protestors and different events around the nation for lack of civility and conspiracy theory promotions......

Leftist Fascists are fine when it is attacking anyone who doesn't agree with their Marxist points of view. It's only when they get insulted by Trump that they think it is an impeachable offense. :rofl2:
 
Things can change, and they can change rapidly.

In 2000, I thought George Dumbya Bush was a danger to the United States. A lot of conservatives said, "yeah, he is dumb. But he will surround himself with great people!"

Two failed wars, trillions of dollars spent invading nations that did not threaten us, and a very close call with a Second Great Republican Depression is what happened after I was told not to worry too much about Dumbya.

That's my take, as well. I would rather see Trump charged with crimes yet stay in office, hobbled by legal battles, and serve out our sentence till 2020. Then throw the book at him.
 
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