JAMES COMEY urges Americans to vote for DEMOCRATS to SAVE THE COUNTRY...

Frank Apisa said:
I almost shit when I read George Will's last column.

Good for him...good for Comey.

The people still supporting this disgusting piece of shit president ought to be ashamed of themselves. They do not understand what our nation is about...and what decent governance is.
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Hello Centerleftfl,

Centerleftfl said:
Ditto to all the above!! But I might be more fearful than you. We had a common link to sanity in our body politic. John Birchers were the most batshit crazy of my youth and they were so sidelined, you barely heard of them. The KKK was still around but they were SHAMED out of the public square and even laughable.

Now CRAZY and VILE have money, microphones, keyboards and a front row seat. I don't know if we will/can go back to VAST majority sanity. I'm very concerned that we are at or have hit the tipping point. No, that's not hyperbole.
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It is entirely possible Trump could end up destroying the USA. He has already destroyed the USA we knew. This new 'greater' USA seems a heck of a lot meaner and scarier. And on thinner ice. Has he done lasting damage? That, too, is possible.

Trump has alienated our national friends and befriended our national adversaries. It is unconscionable. Nations which have long looked to the USA as something secure that they could rely upon have been forced to look elsewhere. Is it possible to rebuild that trust or have they become aware that they cannot always count on the USA to be there for them? Time will tell.

The State department fired a lot of people who had built long standing relationships with counterparts in other nations. These relationships were built over many years and even decades. They lasted throughout many presidential administrations. These were not partisan people. They were professional diplomats. Gone. Just like that. How do we regain that?

One thing is for sure. We have a lot of work to do. We have to get rid of Trump, make certain he is branded as the failure of a leader that he is, and set to work rebuilding all which has been destroyed, and in so doing, build it better than before. It could take decades. He has set us back that far.

One thing which could hasten getting rid of Trump will also hurt us all. The Trump recession. (Won't that be the deepest recession you ever saw?) The market is artificially high. It is not supported with universal prosperity. It is built on wealth extraction and national debt. That can't last. The market is one Trump calamity (Trade Wars?) away from a massive plunge. When that happens, it will be a wake-up call.

Anybody can pretend they are rich, and spend on debt. Trump is doing it with the nation. That is going to come back and bite him/us in the rear sooner or later. The longer it takes, the deeper the plunge will be. And when that happens, it will have far-reaching affects that will hurt many. Unfortunately, it is usually the middle and poor who are affected the worst.

Wanna be scared? Here is one facet which is most bothersome to me. (Aside from the SCOTUS.) The national debt can be paid down during a good economy. It can't be paid down during a recession. There is no paying down the debt during a recession. Debt always rises during a recession. If you try to pay it down then, the recession gets worse, or could become a depression. It can only be paid down during a good economy. That is why the only piece of major legislation Trump and Republicans have been able to pass, the tax cut for the rich, and temporary tax cut for everybody else, is so irresponsible. The rich love it, but it screws everybody else. And sends the debt sky high. It is expected that there would be an immediate yet temporary boost to the economy from that. But it can't last. Underline the word TEMPORARY. We made the rich richer and the nation poorer, and we set ourselves up for a recession + really high debt. That weakens the USA, weakens the Dollar. If people thought the debt was bad after the Great Recession, we could be in for a no-win situation that blows that away with a debt far higher than national GDP. We could be looking at $30 Trillion, $40 trillion, even $50 trillion in debt. Trump has shown he is great at one thing in his life: Borrowing too much and going bankrupt over and over. It was tremendously unwise to put him in charge of our nation.

Step 1: Get rid of Trump!
 
PoliTalker said:
anna be scared? Here is one facet which is most bothersome to me. (Aside from the SCOTUS.) The national debt can be paid down during a good economy. It can't be paid down during a recession. There is no paying down the debt during a recession. Debt always rises during a recession. If you try to pay it down then, the recession gets worse, or could become a depression. It can only be paid down during a good economy. That is why the only piece of major legislation Trump and Republicans have been able to pass, the tax cut for the rich, and temporary tax cut for everybody else, is so irresponsible. The rich love it, but it screws everybody else. And sends the debt sky high. It is expected that there would be an immediate yet temporary boost to the economy from that. But it can't last. Underline the word TEMPORARY. We made the rich richer and the nation poorer, and we set ourselves up for a recession + really high debt. That weakens the USA, weakens the Dollar. If people thought the debt was bad after the Great Recession, we could be in for a no-win situation that blows that away with a debt far higher than national GDP. We could be looking at $30 Trillion, $40 trillion, even $50 trillion in debt. Trump has shown he is great at one thing in his life: Borrowing too much and going bankrupt over and over. It was tremendously unwise to put him in charge of our nation.
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All of that is by design; Conservatives want to do this to the country so they can then rebuild their vision of Gilead. They pass tax cuts that expand the deficit for the purpose of creating massive debts that they then use as an excuse to cut the spending on programs they are ideologically opposed to, for the sake of inflicting harm on those they sanctimoniously judge.

That's terrorism, as far as I'm concerned. Fiscal terrorism.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Centerleftfl,



It is entirely possible Trump could end up destroying the USA. He has already destroyed the USA we knew. This new 'greater' USA seems a heck of a lot meaner and scarier. And on thinner ice. Has he done lasting damage? That, too, is possible.

Trump has alienated our national friends and befriended our national adversaries. It is unconscionable. Nations which have long looked to the USA as something secure that they could rely upon have been forced to look elsewhere. Is it possible to rebuild that trust or have they become aware that they cannot always count on the USA to be there for them? Time will tell.

The State department fired a lot of people who had built long standing relationships with counterparts in other nations. These relationships were built over many years and even decades. They lasted throughout many presidential administrations. These were not partisan people. They were professional diplomats. Gone. Just like that. How do we regain that?

One thing is for sure. We have a lot of work to do. We have to get rid of Trump, make certain he is branded as the failure of a leader that he is, and set to work rebuilding all which has been destroyed, and in so doing, build it better than before. It could take decades. He has set us back that far.

One thing which could hasten getting rid of Trump will also hurt us all. The Trump recession. (Won't that be the deepest recession you ever saw?) The market is artificially high. It is not supported with universal prosperity. It is built on wealth extraction and national debt. That can't last. The market is one Trump calamity (Trade Wars?) away from a massive plunge. When that happens, it will be a wake-up call.

Anybody can pretend they are rich, and spend on debt. Trump is doing it with the nation. That is going to come back and bite him/us in the rear sooner or later. The longer it takes, the deeper the plunge will be. And when that happens, it will have far-reaching affects that will hurt many. Unfortunately, it is usually the middle and poor who are affected the worst.

Wanna be scared? Here is one facet which is most bothersome to me. (Aside from the SCOTUS.) The national debt can be paid down during a good economy. It can't be paid down during a recession. There is no paying down the debt during a recession. Debt always rises during a recession. If you try to pay it down then, the recession gets worse, or could become a depression. It can only be paid down during a good economy. That is why the only piece of major legislation Trump and Republicans have been able to pass, the tax cut for the rich, and temporary tax cut for everybody else, is so irresponsible. The rich love it, but it screws everybody else. And sends the debt sky high. It is expected that there would be an immediate yet temporary boost to the economy from that. But it can't last. Underline the word TEMPORARY. We made the rich richer and the nation poorer, and we set ourselves up for a recession + really high debt. That weakens the USA, weakens the Dollar. If people thought the debt was bad after the Great Recession, we could be in for a no-win situation that blows that away with a debt far higher than national GDP. We could be looking at $30 Trillion, $40 trillion, even $50 trillion in debt. Trump has shown he is great at one thing in his life: Borrowing too much and going bankrupt over and over. It was tremendously unwise to put him in charge of our nation.

Step 1: Get rid of Trump!
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Sorry, the problem is the entire system itself. Don is not the problem, merely a symptom. He is also a warning sign that our political system is an illusion. Not that it wasn't before, but some of us aren't/weren't paying attention; this is more out in the open which is what the establishment is concerned about. We have a firmly entrenched ruling industrial Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class funding "both" political parties. We can swap out personalities endlessly, the trajectory remains the same. The empire is in decline; they all eventually do you know, and we are fully committed, in an utterly bipartisan fashion, to continue to pursue the behaviors of an empire in decline. Endless militarism abroad, bogus wars of aggression and occupation, societal resource extraction and population control eventually are brought to bear upon the population at home as it resists the economic cannibalization required to rule the planet.

These things rarely end well.
 
LV426 said:
All of that is by design; Conservatives want to do this to the country so they can then rebuild their vision of Gilead. They pass tax cuts that expand the deficit for the purpose of creating massive debts that they then use as an excuse to cut the spending on programs they are ideologically opposed to, for the sake of inflicting harm on those they sanctimoniously judge.

That's terrorism, as far as I'm concerned. Fiscal terrorism.
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It's wealth extraction, concentration, redistribution. If the so called average american wants a glimpse into the future, just take a long look back at what your ruling industrial class has done to everyone else while you thought we were being "exceptional" around the world.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Centerleftfl,



It is entirely possible Trump could end up destroying the USA. He has already destroyed the USA we knew. This new 'greater' USA seems a heck of a lot meaner and scarier. And on thinner ice. Has he done lasting damage? That, too, is possible.

Trump has alienated our national friends and befriended our national adversaries. It is unconscionable. Nations which have long looked to the USA as something secure that they could rely upon have been forced to look elsewhere. Is it possible to rebuild that trust or have they become aware that they cannot always count on the USA to be there for them? Time will tell.

The State department fired a lot of people who had built long standing relationships with counterparts in other nations. These relationships were built over many years and even decades. They lasted throughout many presidential administrations. These were not partisan people. They were professional diplomats. Gone. Just like that. How do we regain that?

One thing is for sure. We have a lot of work to do. We have to get rid of Trump, make certain he is branded as the failure of a leader that he is, and set to work rebuilding all which has been destroyed, and in so doing, build it better than before. It could take decades. He has set us back that far.

One thing which could hasten getting rid of Trump will also hurt us all. The Trump recession. (Won't that be the deepest recession you ever saw?) The market is artificially high. It is not supported with universal prosperity. It is built on wealth extraction and national debt. That can't last. The market is one Trump calamity (Trade Wars?) away from a massive plunge. When that happens, it will be a wake-up call.

Anybody can pretend they are rich, and spend on debt. Trump is doing it with the nation. That is going to come back and bite him/us in the rear sooner or later. The longer it takes, the deeper the plunge will be. And when that happens, it will have far-reaching affects that will hurt many. Unfortunately, it is usually the middle and poor who are affected the worst.

Wanna be scared? Here is one facet which is most bothersome to me. (Aside from the SCOTUS.) The national debt can be paid down during a good economy. It can't be paid down during a recession. There is no paying down the debt during a recession. Debt always rises during a recession. If you try to pay it down then, the recession gets worse, or could become a depression. It can only be paid down during a good economy. That is why the only piece of major legislation Trump and Republicans have been able to pass, the tax cut for the rich, and temporary tax cut for everybody else, is so irresponsible. The rich love it, but it screws everybody else. And sends the debt sky high. It is expected that there would be an immediate yet temporary boost to the economy from that. But it can't last. Underline the word TEMPORARY. We made the rich richer and the nation poorer, and we set ourselves up for a recession + really high debt. That weakens the USA, weakens the Dollar. If people thought the debt was bad after the Great Recession, we could be in for a no-win situation that blows that away with a debt far higher than national GDP. We could be looking at $30 Trillion, $40 trillion, even $50 trillion in debt. Trump has shown he is great at one thing in his life: Borrowing too much and going bankrupt over and over. It was tremendously unwise to put him in charge of our nation.

Step 1: Get rid of Trump!
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I agree...the first priority should be to get rid of Trump.

In fact, until accomplished, I think it should be the ONLY priority.

After he is gone...we know we have Pence to deal with.

And...in order to attain step 1...we have got to pack the congress with the out party.

The Republican members of congress have no backbone...or self-esteem. If they had those qualities, they would be on Trump's back like flies on horseshit.
 
Centerleftfl said:
Well, that's quite a break or departure for A REPUBLICAN, don't you think?

"All who believe in this country’s values must vote for Democrats this fall. Policy differences
don’t matter right now. History has its eyes on us.”​

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Former FBI Director James Comey was once a registered Republican, but after the attacks from his own party members and President Donald Trump, Comey revealed he changed. Now he’s urging a vote against the GOP.

“This Republican Congress has proven incapable of fulfilling the Founders’ design that ‘Ambition must … counteract ambition,'” Comey quoted on Twitter Tuesday. “All who believe in this country’s values must vote for Democrats this fall. Policy differences don’t matter right now. History has its eyes on us.”



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This Republican Congress has proven incapable of fulfilling the Founders’ design that “Ambition must ... counteract ambition.” All who believe in this country’s values must vote for Democrats this fall. Policy differences don’t matter right now. History has its eyes on us.

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Comey is a Democrat? Say it ain't so. /sarcasm
 
Hello Fentoine Lum,

Fentoine Lum said:
Sorry, the problem is the entire system itself. Don is not the problem, merely a symptom. He is also a warning sign that our political system is an illusion. Not that it wasn't before, but some of us aren't/weren't paying attention; this is more out in the open which is what the establishment is concerned about. We have a firmly entrenched ruling industrial Wall Street/donor/"job creator" class funding "both" political parties. We can swap out personalities endlessly, the trajectory remains the same. The empire is in decline; they all eventually do you know, and we are fully committed, in an utterly bipartisan fashion, to continue to pursue the behaviors of an empire in decline. Endless militarism abroad, bogus wars of aggression and occupation, societal resource extraction and population control eventually are brought to bear upon the population at home as it resists the economic cannibalization required to rule the planet.

These things rarely end well.
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That could take hundreds of years. Rome lasted 400.

In the meantime, we can still have a better nation for this generation.

And I agree with much of what you've said here. I'm just hoping the timing is stretched out far beyond our age.

For that matter, humanity itself is doomed unless we stop population growth and get a grip on sustainability.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Fentoine Lum,



That could take hundreds of years. Rome lasted 400.

In the meantime, we can still have a better nation for this generation.

And I agree with much of what you've said here. I'm just hoping the timing is stretched out far beyond our age.

For that matter, humanity itself is doomed unless we stop population growth and get a grip on sustainability.
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I see nothing here to take issue with, I guess at the moment I do not see our economic/political system in any condition to respond to the will and needs of the citizenry at large sans some serious perturbation that disturbs the trajectory.
 
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