This is f*cking embarrassing,

United76America said:
Investigator, yes. Special counsel, no. The scope of a special counsel investigation is suppose to be narrow. Any crime that a special counsel comes across that is not within the scope of his or her investigation must be passed along to the department of justice to be referred for investigation otherwise. This is the reason why Congress is demanding to know the original scope of the Mueller probe. Because Mueller is refusing to tell them.
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Was the Kenneth Starr investigation narrow in scope? It was an investigation of a land deal in case you forgot.
 
Thing1 said:
It's not a "deflection." Even Fox is mystified.

Putin is loving it today.
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mystified about what..the fact Putin has continued to deny? why is that surprising?
More importantly what does it mean in the real world? Putin is looking at areas where we can work together -so is Trump -why does this bother you?
 
anatta said:
mystified about what..the fact Putin has continued to deny? why is that surprising?
More importantly what does it mean in the real world? Putin is looking at areas where we can work together -so is Trump -why does this bother you?
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Why does it bother me to see Trump side w/ Russia over our own intelligence community?

Hmmmmm.....
 
LV426 said:
The indictments against Manafort, Flynn, and Gates are with regard to their shady financial dealings with Russians, thus giving them the motivation to conspire with Russia.
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And nothing has been shown that it involved Trump or that he knew about it.
 
LV426 said:
No evidence you've seen yet. Apparently, it was so overwhelming that Flynn and Gates pleaded guilty already to lesser charges. That seems to indicate they're turning evidence against the conspirators.

Seems to me, based on Mueller's indictments from last week, that there was definitely contact between Trump and Russia. We already know Roger Stone was in touch with Russia because he admitted it. Roger Stone was also in contact with Trump senior advisors, maybe even Trump himself.

The picture is very broad, but it's there.
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No evidence that anyone has seen. Yet the assumption is guilt. That to me, presuming guilt over innocence, threatens our democracy.

And once again, in his announcement of the 12 most recent indictments of Russians, Mueller stated that no American or Trump campaign worker had any connection with them.
 
katzgar said:
I have to wonder why somebody would defend somebody that's a traitor
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Once again, no one has provided a single shred of evidence that Trump is a traitor. Obama commuted the sentence of Bradley Manning, who was a traitor. Obama traded 5 senior Taliban commanders for Bergdhal. Who was a traitor. Obama offered flexibility to the Russians. Obama sent billions in cash on pallets to Iran in the dead of night. Obama offered the Russian reset.

The idea that conservatives are defending a traitor has no basis in evidence or facts.
 
LV426 said:
No evidence you've seen yet. Apparently, it was so overwhelming that Flynn and Gates pleaded guilty already to lesser charges. That seems to indicate they're turning evidence against the conspirators.

Seems to me, based on Mueller's indictments from last week, that there was definitely contact between Trump and Russia. We already know Roger Stone was in touch with Russia because he admitted it. Roger Stone was also in contact with Trump senior advisors, maybe even Trump himself.

The picture is very broad, but it's there.
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And the key word and hope that liberals keep pining their dreams on, is "YET"!!

Try praying; because all else seems to have failed. :good4u:
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
While you gave a really good description of your post, once again:
What was said, that is a problem?
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Read the post again, it's all there already. And bear in mind, I've repeatedly said that I feel Don is the perfect representation to the world of the state of american society at present. We should have an obvious con man as president, because america itself is a con.
 
Fentoine Lum said:
Read the post again, it's all there already. And bear in mind, I've repeatedly said that I feel Don is the perfect representation to the world of the state of american society at present. We should have an obvious con man as president, because america itself is a con.
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Once again:
What was said, that is a problem?
 
LV426 said:
Yet.


Though it sure seems like it with him calling for Russia to hack the Democrats and then Russia doing so that same day.
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And the key word and hope that liberals keep pining their dreams on, is "YET"!!

Try praying; because all else seems to have failed. :good4u:
 
United76America said:
No evidence that anyone has seen. Yet the assumption is guilt. That to me, presuming guilt over innocence, threatens our democracy
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Evidence you haven't seen.


United76America said:
And once again, in his announcement of the 12 most recent indictments of Russians, Mueller stated that no American or Trump campaign worker had any connection with them.
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Wrong.

The indictment says that they were in contact with Roger Stone who was in contact with "senior members of the Trump campaign".

The indictment also says that a Congressional candidate reached out to the Russians to get hacked info on their opponent.

Whoever told you what you just said lied to you.
 
It's official.

Trump supporters are nuts.

They also are hypocrites (they'd be going ape shit if Obama had done anything like this)...but so what.

The fact that they are nuts does matter.

The Germans who blindly followed and supported Adolf Hitler back in the 1930's were nuts too.

And look where that ended up.

Reichstag%201945.jpg
 
archives said:
Ah, let me correct you there, it has been little over a year, and seems it you weren't paying attention last Friday, Mueller gave documented proof with "evidence"of Russian interference directly from Russian intelligence services, which an hour ago the Presisdent of the United States didn't think it was important enough to bring up when talking to the Russian President

And, in all of those old "whataboutisms" you cited, none of them involved a Russian espionage effort to sabotage our election system which defines us as a democracy. Not "hypocrisy," facts

Want to try again?
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Not to mention the fact that Putin would not deny when asked...that he has compromising info on Trump
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
And the key word and hope that liberals keep pining their dreams on, is "YET"!!
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Well, here's the thing:

Trump's already lied about people in his campaign having contact with Russia.

He's also already lied about Russia attacking us.

He was in a room with Putin for two hours, no cameras or press, and walked away with nothing.
 
LV426 said:
Evidence you haven't seen.




Wrong.

The indictment says that they were in contact with Roger Stone who was in contact with "senior members of the Trump campaign".

The indictment also says that a Congressional candidate reached out to the Russians to get hacked info on their opponent.

Whoever told you what you just said lied to you.
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And the key word and hope that liberals keep pining their dreams on, is "YET"!!

Try praying; because all else seems to have failed. :good4u:
 
Frank Apisa said:
It's official.

Trump supporters are nuts.

They also are hypocrites (they'd be going ape shit if Obama had done anything like this)...but so what.

The fact that they are nuts does matter.

The Germans who blindly followed and supported Adolf Hitler back in the 1930's were nuts too.

And look where that ended up.

Reichstag%201945.jpg
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At some point (and I think we've reached it) the comparisons to the blind devotion shown to Hitler are appropriate
 
Frank Apisa said:
It's official.
Trump supporters are nuts.
They also are hypocrites (they'd be going ape shit if Obama had done anything like this)...but so what.
The fact that they are nuts does matter.
The Germans who blindly followed and supported Adolf Hitler back in the 1930's were nuts too.
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#BurnTheLifeboats
 
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