This is f*cking embarrassing,

It merely is. It's an observation. You partisanshitheads can quibble over whether it is a "problem" or not until you wear yourselves out or jump on the next distraction.

OHHHHHHHHHHHH, so it's just your observation (read ASSumption).

So once again:
What was said, that is a problem?
 
Well, here's the thing:

Trump's already lied about people in his campaign having contact with Russia.

He's also already lied about Russia attacking us.

He was in a room with Putin for two hours, no cameras or press, and walked away with nothing.

And the key word and hope that liberals keep pining their dreams on, is "YET"!!

Try praying; because all else seems to have failed. :good4u:
 
And the key word and hope that liberals keep pining their dreams on, is "YET"!!ry praying; because all else seems to have failed. :good4u:

Nixon wasn't under investigation until he was.

Anyone looking at the flowchart can see Mueller is rolling up the Lieutenants to nab the Don.

It's what he did to get Gotti.
 
Thanks for asking. This ought to do for now.
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“Black guys counting my money! I hate it. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks.”

In 1989, Trump took out ads in New York newspapers urging the death penalty for five black and Latino teenagers accused of raping a white woman in Central Park; he argued they were guilty as late as October 2016, more than 10 years after DNA evidence had exonerated them.

He began his 2016 presidential campaign with a speech disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”

Trump said a federal judge hearing a case about Trump University was biased because of the judge’s Mexican heritage.

At the White House on Jan. 11, Trump vulgarly called for less immigration from Haiti and Africa and more from Norway. [Remember "shithole countries"?]

He is quick to highlight crimes committed by dark-skinned people, sometimes exaggerating or lying about them (such as a claim about growing crime from “radical Islamic terror” in Britain). He is very slow to decry hate crimes committed by whites against dark-skinned people (such as the killing of an Indian man in Kansas last year).

Trump hired Steve Bannon as his campaign head and later White House chief strategist. Under Bannon’s leadership, the website Breitbart made white nationalism a central theme. It featured a section, for example, on “black crime.”

Trump endorsed and campaigned for Roy Moore, the Alabama Senate candidate who spoke positively about slavery and who called for an African-American Muslim member of Congress not to be seated because of his religion.

Trump pardoned – and fulsomely praises – Joe Arpaio, the Arizona sheriff sanctioned for racially profiling Latinos and for keeping immigrants in brutal prison conditions.

In the 1990s, Trump took out advertisements alleging that the “Mohawk Indian record of criminal activity is well documented.” At the time, he was fighting competition for his casino business.

In a 1993 radio interview, he suggested that Native Americans in Connecticut were faking their ancestry. “I think I might have more Indian blood than a lot of the so-called Indians that are trying to open up the reservations.”

In a November 2017 meeting with Navajo veterans of World War II, Trump mocked Senator Elizabeth Warren as “Pocahontas.”

Trump once referred to a Hispanic Miss Universe as “Miss Housekeeping.”

At a June 2016 campaign rally, Trump pointed to one attendee and said: “Oh, look at my African-American over here. Look at him.”

Lots more: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html

None of what you said would be considered racist, bigoted or ignorant...........



.....to a Trump supporter.
 
Hey, there are good people on "both sides." Where have we heard that one before?

To their credit, at least quite a few on the GOP side are starting to speak up about this.
 
And the key word and hope that liberals keep pining their dreams on, is "YET"!!

Try praying; because all else seems to have failed. :good4u:

Would you at least admit, if this was Obama asking for Russia to hack Trump's emails -- and they did the same day -- would you concede that you would find that proof that Obama conspired with Russia?

Because right now, you Trump lovers believe 100% Obama conspired with Putin with ZERO evidence
 
Evidence you haven't seen.




Wrong.

The indictment says that they were in contact with Roger Stone who was in contact with "senior members of the Trump campaign".

The indictment also says that a Congressional candidate reached out to the Russians to get hacked info on their opponent.

Whoever told you what you just said lied to you.

Have you seen this magical evidence then? You're assuming it exists. I'm not going to make an assumption on the existence of something. Until there's confirmation that there is evidence, then you proceed as if there is no evidence. A cornerstone of the criminal justice system is innocent until proven guilty.

I said no connection. As in no connection to the crimes they're indicted for. Which is in the report that Mueller released. So if his report is lying to me..... then idk where you got your information from.
 
Have you seen this magical evidence then?

So, this is sea-lioning.

Mueller's indictment makes it clear that Roger Stone was in contact with the GRU, as was a "Congressional candidate" who wanted to get hacked info on their opponent.

Whether or not they are named in that indictment doesn't mean they won't be named in future indictments. In fact, Roger Stone even said he thinks he'll get indicted soon.
 
You're assuming it exists. I'm not going to make an assumption on the existence of something. Until there's confirmation that there is evidence, then you proceed as if there is no evidence. A cornerstone of the criminal justice system is innocent until proven guilty. I said no connection. As in no connection to the crimes they're indicted for. Which is in the report that Mueller released. So if his report is lying to me..... then idk where you got your information from.

So the simple solution is for Trump to secure the extradition of these Russians so they can stand trial and either deny the evidence laid out before them, or be exonerated through a trial.

"No connection"?

The Mueller indictment says there was an intermediary between the GRU and Trump's advisors who is captured in e-mails with Trump advisors discussing the Russian hack in point #44 of the indictment.

And again, this indictment is just for the Russians who attacked us. But the indictment does seem to set up that there was collusion among some Americans; Roger Stone at least, and this "Congressional candidate".
 
So the simple solution is for Trump to secure the extradition of these Russians so they can stand trial and either deny the evidence laid out before them, or be exonerated through a trial.

"No connection"?

The Mueller indictment says there was an intermediary between the GRU and Trump's advisors who is captured in e-mails with Trump advisors discussing the Russian hack in point #44 of the indictment.

And again, this indictment is just for the Russians who attacked us. But the indictment does seem to set up that there was collusion among some Americans; Roger Stone at least, and this "Congressional candidate".

Russia will never allow Russian citizens to be extradited for trial.

Emailing about the Russian hacks isn't illegal.

Collusion isn't illegal. The term collusion is exactly the reason why you can make assumptions or predictions based on no known evidence. Because its not actually a crime. Conspiracy is an alternative that is actually a crime. But then the investigators and you would have to prove without a doubt of guilt and intent. Which as of right now can't be done. And given the way Comey cleared Hillary, "extreme carelessness", it's likely that it would be impossible to prove conspiracy. Because they can say, "well it wasn't our intent to swing the election. We were just doing oppo research".

But once again, you're making assumptions of guilt based on ifs and maybes. And that is not how the law works. Its not how the criminal justice system works. If you have some magical hidden evidence that no one has seen yet, that proves guilt without a shadow of a doubt, please provide it. Otherwise wait for Mueller to release whatever it is he has or wait for him to announce there's nothing to find. Until then, you cannot assume guilt. Innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around.
 
I thought our freedom and strength ended the Cold War -- but now according to Trump lovers, it was being friendly to a leader of the Soviet Union, got it.

Maybe we should just be friendly to all of the murderous dictators around the world --- and all this time conservatives would have us believe that "appeasing dictators" was a bad thing.

Oh and by the way, to suggest that a country would voluntarily collapse its economic system and break up their country because their leader was friendly with another leader is an absolutely idiotic thing to believe, but common for a Trump supporter

Are you truly this ignorant of American history and the end of the cold war? There were many things that contributed to the end one of which was joint respect between the two leaders. Only idiots think power is the only means of diplomacy. Looks like you are one of the power makes right crowd.
 
Trump/Putin press conference

Earlier when a reporter just Trump if he bought up Russia interference Trump skipped over the question and went into the usual dialogue on what a great victory he attained, and Putin added that he was unaware of anything but would look into it

Now, when asked if he believed the US intelligence agencies or Putin he went into a rant about Hillary's server. The next question if Trump would warn Putin not to do it again was also skirted over with a regurgitation on Hillary and the election. Putin pretty much concurred

Love to see how Fox is going to spin this debacle



Yes....it is embarrassing to anyone with and ounce of common sense and integrity.

Laughable......you demand a sitting president of the United States invite a world leader to a meeting and then accuse him of an unproven cyber attack simply to placate "your bigotry"? Yep...we can trust the DEEP STATE intel. Was it not Hillary Clinton and the DNC that used foreign agents and Russian agents to attack her political opponent? Where's the outrage for this documented COLLUSION? If anyone really wanted to get to the bottom of any RUSSIAN/US POLITICAL PARTY collusion....would the STEELE DOSSIER not be a good starting point?

How far will the left carry this Russia ruse against our President? Clearly, China is more of a viable threat to our democracy than Russia ever could be......but that does not stop the ONE WORLD ORDER ELEISTS from war mongering in order to maintain what little political power they can garner.
 
Russia will never allow Russian citizens to be extradited for trial.

Today, Trump's own DNI said, unequivocally, that Russia attacked us.

Trump just got done saying he believed Putin.

So if Russia would never extradite its people, then why was Trump even meeting with Putin days after Russians were indicted for attacking America?
 
Trump/Putin press conference

Earlier when a reporter just Trump if he bought up Russia interference Trump skipped over the question and went into the usual dialogue on what a great victory he attained, and Putin added that he was unaware of anything but would look into it

Now, when asked if he believed the US intelligence agencies or Putin he went into a rant about Hillary's server. The next question if Trump would warn Putin not to do it again was also skirted over with a regurgitation on Hillary and the election. Putin pretty much concurred

Love to see how Fox is going to spin this debacle

Translation:

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Collusion isn't illegal. The term collusion is exactly the reason why you can make assumptions or predictions based on no known evidence. Because its not actually a crime. Conspiracy is an alternative that is actually a crime. But then the investigators and you would have to prove without a doubt of guilt and intent. Which as of right now can't be done. And given the way Comey cleared Hillary, "extreme carelessness", it's likely that it would be impossible to prove conspiracy. Because they can say, "well it wasn't our intent to swing the election. We were just doing oppo research".

So far, this witch hunt seems to be catching a lot of witches.
 
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